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- From: fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew Fields)
- Subject: Re: academia, power, priveledge...
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.134620.16506@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
- Sender: news@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Mr. News)
- Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
- References: <0105009A.m82a58@david.roth-music.com>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:46:20 GMT
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- In article <0105009A.m82a58@david.roth-music.com> david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) writes:
- >
- >In article <1992Dec26.173521.4709@zip.eecs.umich.edu> (rec.music.compose), fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew Fields) writes:
- >>
- >> In article <1992Dec25.190909.25191@zip.eecs.umich.edu> I write:
- >> >In article <gXecwB1w165w@dorsai.com> idealord@dorsai.com (Jeff Harrington) writes:
- >> >> Bach and Mozart wrote music which was judged by
- >> >>intelligent, cultured music lovers. I'm sorry, this ain't the case no
- >> >>more.
- >> >
- >> >Intelligent, cultured music lovers don't grow on trees! Hence modern
- >> >academia.
- >>
- >> But I've oversimplified and failed to explain why I love to teach
- >> composition. This cuts right to the heart of the joy of teaching.
- >> You hand out seeds of ideas that you don't even have to make up
- >> because your own teachers handed them to you, and each student finds a
- >> niche for that seed in her or his own fertile mind---and week in, week
- >> out, you get to see instantiations of ideas blossoming back at you in
- >> ways you couldn't ever have imagined. This is fun.
- >>
- >> But nobody should be teaching composition who doesn't complete at least
- >> one new symphony or 3 new sonatas and quartets or one scene of an opera
- >> fully orchestrated per year, consistently, imho.
- >>
- >I don't think anybody should be teaching composition period because
- >it can't be taught to begin with, imho.
-
- Two comments here. First, I believe strongly that composition CAN be
- taught, but the cultural category of "greatness" can't be taught. If
- there were nothing that could be taught about composition then it
- would be kind of funny to have this newsgroup, unless every posting
- announced composers' contests. Composition can be taught because so
- many nifty ideas have already been worked out by composers of the
- past, and so many of these ideas are fluid enough to be adaptable to
- individual types of expression. Raw creativity is very tricky to
- elicit, although sometimes you encounter a student who is fairly
- bristling with creativity but just lacks the confidence or nerve to
- try it out, and instead keeps trying to stick to straight-arrow
- rule-based systems or whatever---and in that case a teacher CAN
- encourage the student to take advantage of their innate creativity,
- which still doesn't say that creativity can be taught. Compositional
- craft and technique can be taught. The situation is similar in
- painting, creative writing, or even mathematics.
-
- Secondly, when I listed what I think a professor of composition should be
- doing regularly, I intended to be inclusive of all truly compositional
- activities, but not to include administrative work, computer support for
- other composers, abstract research with no work of entertainment as its
- end goal, or political maneuvering.
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