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- From: idealord@dorsai.com (Jeff Harrington)
- Subject: Re: Regarding the Questionable use of the Word -> Advance
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:16:24 GMT
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- maverick@mahogany.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Vance Maverick) writes:
-
- > In article <m6oZVB3w165w@dorsai.com>, idealord@dorsai.com (Jeff Harrington) w
- > |> I would just like to briefly mention my interpretation of the discussion
- > |> of "Advances in Music Composition" as being biased towards a teleological
- > |> interpretation of music history. Where are we going, people?
- > |>
- > |> I still feel that the late string quartets of Beethoven are
- > |> infinitely more "advanced" regarding real human musical expression than
- > |> anything I've heard from this century. (Bach's Art of Fugue, too). I'm
- > |> talking about music which is coherent, complete in its intentions and
- > |> realizations and infinite in its potential for emotional affect.
- >
- > Um, sounds like you're burdened with a teleology too --
- > rather a New-Critical one at that. My interpretation of your
- > dictum here is that these pieces scratch your itches better
- > than any you've heard from this century. Fine. But to
- > project this onto the pieces is a very similar move to the
- > one you deplore in the academic environment -- it entails
- > that all music is trying to do the same thing. For example,
- > you present "coherence" as an unproblematic virtue -- but
- > what does it mean? what kind is desirable? and who decides
- > when it's present?
- >
- > Not that I wish to defend Boulez in particular -- Eclat is
- > nice, Pli Selon Pli often pretty, but he wouldn't be the
- > composer I chose to empedestal. I think there's a middle way
- > between the use of "advancedness" to leverage new academic
- > music into unearned significance, and the use of vague
- > humanist platitudes to uphold the established classics.
- >
- > Vance
-
- Mr. Maverick critiques my use of the word "advance" in art criticism by
- never using the word. He instead, implies I have my own teleology based
- on an implied stylistic revisionism. My point is simple and I believe
- Mr. Maverick understood it. He responded with the typical knee-jerk
- response to our university-sponsored patronage enviroment, of which I'm
- willing to bet he plays a part.
-
- My point was that the university patronage system forces a conceptual
- underpinning to art, that of the sciences. Advancement plays no role in
- real artistry. The only requirement that an artist has is to be _true_
- to herself. If she does not do this she is a fraud.
-
- Additionally, the university-sponsored patronage enviroment foists an
- another fundamental constraint onto the creator. The committee. The
- committee reigns over every aspect or our culture. The committee insures
- that things which are out of the ordinary (either by being very wierd or
- otherwise surprising or disturbing) never make it to the "market." It
- assumes a standard of mediocrity based on a stylistic consensus rendered
- as dictum by the committee.
-
- Now, with our new market-oriented cultural markeplace we have the
- committee which requires we pay homage to "pop culture." This way a
- steady market of youthful concert-goers will continue to perpetuate the
- committee. This is the reigning force in NY City culture. Naturally a
- bit of politics is added to keep our youth enlightened. I have nothing
- against pop culture or politics. My point is to be aware of constraining
- forces in _your_ culture. They are there and any constraint (no matter
- how enlightened :-) is fundamentally dangerous to an artist.
-
- Mr. Maverick also implies that I have an agenda or style which I would
- like to see perpetuated. This is patently untrue. We all have our
- favorite pieces. We all have our opinions about what is great music. I,
- too happen to like parts of "Pli Selon Pli." :-) (even though it's
- ultimate effect imho is one of "advanced" wallpaper music).
-
- Whatever you think about style, we must all be aware of the forces which
- keep us from being true to ourselves and our infinite capacities for
- expression. I had a saying when I was in school that "Mediocrity will
- always win out over Incomprehensibility." By participating in the
- culture of constraint (whether the constraint of "advancement" or
- "committee") we can insure that the next GREAT bit of musical
- incomprehensibility will never get written.
-
- I look forward to your comments in this regard (all).
-
-
- Jeff Harrington
- IdEAL ORDER
- idealord@dorsai.com
-