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- From: pkbockus@gsbphd.uchicago.edu (Keith Bockus)
- Subject: Re: CD prices
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.080720.20221@midway.uchicago.edu>
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- References: <1992Dec24.191243.9008@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 08:07:20 GMT
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- I just want to comment on Francois Velde's comments about Chris
- Brewster's (or Dave Lampson's?) comments on R. Goiffon comments
- about the price of CDs...
-
- *** warning *** warning *** warning ***
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- >The author is an economist. Proceed at your own risk.
-
- As is this one, albeit a mere PhD student.
- However, I'll try to address my comments to the laity :-)
-
-
- For the most part, Francois Velde gave a fine account of
- breakeven price/volume relations in the presence of fixed
- cost. A couple of comments and quibbles, however...
-
- Quibble #1:
-
- >tells us that today's CDs give us more music for the buck ($16.75 being the
- >close to the upper bound on CD prices in the US).
-
- Francois is no doubt correct, but Goiffron's argument
- is irrelevant. Saying that the real price of CDs has
- dropped is not even remotely an argument that CD prices
- should be higher. The relevant questions are 1) "What
- are we willing to pay for CDs," and (perhaps more importantly)
- 2) "What are Goiffron's competitors willing to sell them for?"
-
- Imagine your computer salesman trying to sell you an IBM 8088 machine
- with 64k for $5000 because "it's cheaper than it was in 1980," and
- you get the idea.
-
- Comment #1:
-
- Goiffon writes:
- >>"For example a $60,000 recording released as a well-presented, well-
- >> documented CD retailing at $15 needs to sell almost 25,000 copies
- >> worldwide just to break even.
-
- The head of the Naxos label was quoted in Pulse magazine (a Tower
- Records freebie) as saying that he spends no more than $30,000
- making a recording, because he records with just the performers
- and one engineer. He states that many of the major labels spend
- $60,000+ by having all manner of hangers-on present at the sessions.
- Mr. Goiffron may well be suffering the effects of corporate bloat.
-
- As a side note, the Naxos fellow stated that he does not pay
- "superstar wages" to his performers. You may note that this results
- in Naxos not having "superstar" performers, but the second best
- is getting pretty good these days. The Oxford Camerata may
- start eating the Tallis Scholars' lunches when the relative
- prices are $6 vs. $18.
-
- Quibble #2:
-
- >marginal cost is $6 ($2 manufacturing + $4 retail margin).
-
- A marginal cost of $6 is highly unlikely, since Naxos CDs sell for
- $6 normally and $5 on sale. Note that most of the things we
- associate with "quality" are fixed costs, so Naxos' marginal
- costs should not be any lower than HMU's. I doubt that Naxos is losing
- money on every sale or failing to cover fixed costs.
-
- Quibble #3:
-
- >It is left as an exercise for the reader :-) to add the demand curve to
- >the above plot: suppose a downward-sloping curve (the higher the price,
- >the smaller the demand), and you can see graphically that it would require
- >a very steep curve to make it worthwhile for the industry to move to lower
- >prices.
-
- While one may doubt that the *industry* demand curve is terribly steep,
- it is the *firm* demand curve that is relevant to Mr. Goiffron.
- A firm sees a marked falloff in demand once it's prices rise
- above those of the close substitutes. It is thus not implausible
- that dropping prices to it's competitors' (e.g. Polygram) levels
- would result in a dramatic increase in volume. Price $1 below
- the competition, and they'd probably have to add extra shifts
- at the factory :-)
-
- >Otherwise, I agree with most of what Chris Brewster wrote, and I certainly
- >find Goiffon's plea clumsy and unconvincing, to say the least.
-
- On this, we agree wholeheartedly :-)
-
- Keith Bockus
-