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- From: dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker)
- Subject: Re: Opinions sought: Beethoven's Late String Quartets
- Message-ID: <1992Dec26.192121.7201@spang.Camosun.BC.CA>
- Organization: Camosun College, Victoria B.C, Canada
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- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 19:21:21 GMT
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- zorro@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (John Grabowski) writes:
- : Steve Monroe (v035550@stortek.com) wrote:
- : : I am interested in opinions on
- : : recordings of Beethoven's "late"
- : : string quartets.
- [....]
- :
- : Possibly my favorite recording in my entire collection is of the Op. 131
- : String Quartet transcribed for an entire string orchestra. Conducted by
- : Bernstein, with the Vienna Phil., it's not the textbook way to do it, but
- : it is nonetheless, a stunning musical experience. Oddly, I'm no Bernstein
- : fan (quite the opposite), so it's ironic that my favorite record would be one
- : of his. But the original Op. 131-as-orchestra-piece ideas was not his but
- : Mitropoulos', so maybe that explains it. (Mitropoulos made a recording in
- : the 1940s on 78s that Mr. Bernstein bought as a child and loved.)
-
- Ahem, not exactly. Mitropoulos iuncluded Op131 in his debut with the
- BSO in January 1937. 'Shortly thereafter, the student (i.e. LB) came
- to know the conductor, who presented him with (what were in those
- days) steel air-check records played at 78rpm. They could be listened
- to onlyu a few times for they wore out quickly; and, indeed, that is
- exactly what happened in this case.' From Jack Gootlieb's liner note
- to the DG LP release. DM apparently lent LB his copy of the score in
- 1946. The idea of performing 'orchestral' version of Beethoven's
- quartets did not, of course, originate with Mitropoulos; probably the
- first conductoir to do it was Mahler. There are also examples by
- Furtwaengler and Toscanini.
-
- : As for recordings of the late quartets to avoid, I just bought the boxed set
- : on RCA by the Cleveland Quartet and it's a lemon! No expressivity, and, to
- : return to Op. 131, they take the scherzo so fast that many notes are missed
- : (many notes!). Fortunately, I bought the set from a used record shop, and
- : only paid $11, so it's no great loss.
- :
- : The set was produced by Thomas Z. Shepard, one of the better producers out
- : there, which makes the quality all the more puzzling.
-
- Why - do ensemble normally take tempo directions from producers? I
- would also avoid the Lasalle quartet on DG.
-
- The Lindsay's on ASV are very good as are the Italians on Philips and
- the Alban Bergs on EMI (although they are a little too perfect for
- some tastes).
-
- IMO the greatest Op131 & 132 are the 1930s recordings by the Busch Quartet. I
- only wish they had done Op130 and the GF.
- --
- Real: Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept., Camosun College, Victoria B.C.
- Email: (dbarker@spang.camosun.bc.ca)
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