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- From: brad@buck.viewlogic.com (Bradford Kellogg)
- Subject: Re: Berg
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.170740.16536@viewlogic.com>
- Originator: brad@buck
- Sender: brad@buck (Bradford Kellogg)
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- Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
- References: <1992Dec22.081306.28194@cs.unibo.it> <1992Dec22.173348.9371@viewlogic.com> <1992Dec23.061618.13164@Princeton.EDU>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:07:40 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec23.061618.13164@Princeton.EDU>, roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig) writes:
- |> In article <1992Dec22.173348.9371@viewlogic.com> brad@buck.viewlogic.com (Bradford Kellogg) writes:
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- |> >Of course, the music is not exactly melodic in the old fashioned sense,
- |> >with Berg following the 12 tone model.
- |>
- |> Say what? Are you *sure* you've been listening to Wozzeck? Much of
- |> the music *is* melodious (expressly intended that way) and there are
- |> no tone-rows in the piece, which is not surprising, given that Berg
- |> composed it before Schoenberg had shared any of his 12-tone ideas with
- |> anyone.
- |>
- Okay, okay, I guess I need to be more careful. Yesterday I was called on
- the carpet for identifying it as "12 tone", which it is not as Schoenberg
- would have written it, but which it is in a looser sense, isn't it? Have
- you seen the score? Is there a key signature anywhere in it? If there is,
- I stand corrected.
-
- Now, "not exactly melodic in the old fashioned sense" would appear to be
- open to question. How about the converse: "it is exactly melodic in the old
- fashioned sense". Well, I wouldn't say that. People don't wander down the
- corrider whistling melodies from Wozzeck. Okay, most of them don't. Yes, it
- is melodious, very melodious, beautifully so. And yes, Berg is much easier
- to listen to than Schoenberg, who often seemed more interested in theory
- than in music. But we're not talking Magic Flute here. This is atonal. The
- only point I was making is that Wozzeck is MODERN, and it sounds modern
- today. Some people would find it inaccessible.
-
- - BK
-