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- From: rstump@itchy.geog.albany.edu (Roger Stump)
- Subject: Re: drugs, ethics, health
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.215002.310@sarah.albany.edu>
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 21:50:02 GMT
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- In article <RSHAPIRO.92Dec31150213@kariba.bbn.com> rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro) writes:
- >
- > In any case, if I were forced to choose one or the
- > other, and I were concerned with my life expectancy, I would rather be
- > addicted to tobacco than to crack or heroin.
- >
- >Depends on whether you're speaking pragmatically, physiologically or
- >morally. Pragmatically, in a world in which heroin is an expensive
- >product typically bought from armed gangsters, quite possibly cut with
- >some foreign substance, and administered with an unclean needle, your
- >life expectancy as a user is indeed likely to be short. But these
-
- Agreed, a principal danger of illegal drug use is that this activity takes
- place beyond the protection of mainstream society -- but that makes
- it no less dangerous.
-
- >factors are all attributable to the legal status of heroin. From a
- >purely physiological point of view, cigarettes and alcohol are much
- >more destructive than any of the popular illegal drugs. I think it's
-
- I'm certainly not an expert on the physiological effects of legal or
- illegal drugs, but is it really possible to make such a comparison? How
- do you compare dosages of different substances, for example? The pattern
- of use will also likely have a significant impact. For example, I think
- it would be rather difficult to overdose on tobacco, but much easier
- on heroin -- so are we talking about long-term or short-term dangers?
- Admittedly I'm out of my depth here, but am somewhat skeptical.
-
- >pretty clear that drug use is generally considered to be morally
- >wrong, while smoking and casual drinking are not.
- >
- >I find it interesting to note that Marcel felt it worth pointing out
- >that one figure on the cover of This Is Our Music was on the nod (a
- >morally evil practice, by the usual standards) but not worth
- >mentioning that three of the four were holding cigarettes (a morally
- >neutral practice, by the same standards)!
-
- Or it could be that using heroin was not a common social practice at
- the time, but smoking was. Again, I'm not convinced that morality
- comes into it as much as social convention (although the two are
- obviously closely linked).
-
- Despite the above comments, I'm somewhat sympathetic with Richard Shapiro's
- larger point, that drug use among jazz musicians (or any other cultural
- phenomenon, for that matter) can best be understood if it is examined
- "objectively," without being filtered through a pre-conceived set of
- moral standards or judgments (which may differ considerably from
- those of the musicians in question). At the same time, though, that
- objectivity requires that the consequences of drug use be realistically
- taken into account -- and those consequences have often been destructive.
- Such a conclusion is not based on moral grounds, but on the obvious misery
- and the many lost opportunities that drugs have brought to users' lives.
- --
- Roger Stump (rstump@itchy.geog.albany.edu)
-