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- From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
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- Subject: Re: Pardon Fischer?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.111342.611@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
- Date: 23 Dec 92 11:13:42 EST
- References: <18654@mindlink.bc.ca> <1992Dec18.132520.549@uoft02.utoledo.edu> <1h7it0INN4na@parsifal.umkc.edu>
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- In article <1h7it0INN4na@parsifal.umkc.edu>, chris@kasey.umkc.edu (Christopher Mitchell) writes:
- >
- > In article <1992Dec18.132520.549@uoft02.utoledo.edu>,
- > dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
- >>
- >>How is the US claim, that it can enact laws which attempt to exercise
- >>control
- >>over people outside of its territories, any different than the Iranian
- >>claim
- >>that it can pass judgment on Salman Rushdie for writing a book while he
- >>was in
- >>Great Britain?
- >>
- >>I eagerly await a mature response which addresses these questions...
- >>
- >>DMC
- >>
- >
- > I think you're missing a point here...Bobby Fischer isn't just a person
- > "outside" of our "territories." Bobby Fischer is a United States
- > citizen, thus subject to our laws (as particular Muslims were subject to
- > Khomeni's proclamation). Since Fischer chooses for the time being to maintain
- > his U. S. citizenship, then he also chooses to be a part of our political
- > process, i.e., the right to vote, petitioning congress, etc. as well as being
- > subject to any and all of our laws.
-
- Nice theory--but what factual/legal basis do you use to back it up?
-
- Make no mistake, it LOOKS nice. However, you are rationalizing, and not pulling
- anything from legal precedent.
-
- >
- > A proclamation by Khomeni is similar in that a particular Muslim sect
- > (forgive me for not knowing details) has members who have chosen to be
- > members and have chosen to be subject to the sect's laws. They had their
- > own leader (Khomeni) whom had certain powers (as granted by their God).
- > Since they believe *all* Muslims are subject to these laws and powers,
- > then Salman Rushdie was as well, and thus his particular blaspheme was
- > to be condemned.
-
- Right. I suppose if the US is correct in exercising their power over Fischer's
- match then Khomeni was also justified in issuing his death sentence.
-
- I mean, if you believe that way, fine. No reason to argue. Everyone is
- permitted their own beliefs.
-
- >
- > Bobby Fischer too is subject to our laws. He either comes home and lives up
- > to his commitment to our country, or I'm sure he's welcome to stay right where
- > he is.
-
- Ah.... America, love it or leave it.
-
- Haven't we grown beyond that?
-
- >
- > Chris
- >
- >
- > --
- > | |
- > | Chris Mitchell | Academic Computing Services
- > | chris@kasey.umkc.edu | University of Missouri - Kansas City
- > | |
-