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- From: jadams@vixen.cc.bellcore.com (adams,john)
- Subject: Re: Coast Guard Boating Tax, NOT!
- Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
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- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 19:31:46 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.193146.1756@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
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- In article <1992Dec25.004155.21747@u.washington.edu> kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante) writes:
- >carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl),In-reply-to: pavlov@niktow.canisius.edu's
- >message of 21 Dec 92 09:24:17 GMT, says:
- >
- >
- >>Except that the border patrol can only check you out when you're
- >>crossing the border not when you're just approaching it.
- >
- >>So, unless you leave US Coastal Waters, they (the Coast Guard) should
- >>not be able to board you unless they have reasonable probable cause
- >>(e.g. they see you picking up packages that have been dropped from an
- >>airplance) that you have drugs/whatever aboard.
- >
- >>-Carl-
- >
- >and I say:
- >
- >Not true, Carl. The Border Patrol can go just about anywhere they wish
- >at any time, and they can even operate outside of the normal legal
- >constraints that we expect from our police agencies. They have more
- >enforcement power than any other agency, except maybe the Secret
- >Service.
- >
- >I agree that "probable cause" should be used as a guideline, but
- >probable cause is not restricted to seeing people picking up
- >packages out of the water. Sometimes just being seen somewhere
- >SEEMS to constitute probable cause. It's a judgment call.
-
- My friends who live outside of El Paso, TX support Kevin's assertion. They,
- A career Army officer and his wife, have been stopped several times over the years
- without probable cause by Border Patrols. It seems to be a way of life there!
-
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