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- From: "Michael Smith" <p00004@psilink.com>
- Subject: Re: Cycling and Environmentalism
- In-Reply-To: <71905@cup.portal.com>
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- Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:18:26 GMT
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- I've just finished reading two long and (as always) interesting posts
- from John Forester on this subject. As usual, I find that I agree with
- most of what Forester has to say, and I'm glad to note that the level of
- ad hominem billingsgate has ebbed (for example, no one's views are
- characterized as "religious").
-
- A couple of points, however, do call for comment.
-
- 1) Regrettably, it seems that Forester cannot resist the temptation to
- distort the positions taken by his interlocutors. For example, here's
- Forester:
-
- > Environmentalists [...]
- >advocate bikeways that make cycling more dangerous, slower, and with
- >lower social status, in the expectation that this will encourage many
- >people to cycle. They even advocate making cycling appear more
- >dangerous than it is. Michael Smith has written that cyclists should
- >fear being hit by cars because "of the existence of a significant
- >social problem, namely our grotesque overreliance on cars, with all
- >the evils that cars bring in their train -- waste, pollution, sprawl
- >.... ," even though these factors have nothing to do with the cyclist
- >accident rate.
-
- And here's what I actually wrote:
-
- >Fear may be reasonable but it shouldn't debilitate: this is the
- >constructive part of Forester's doctrine. Reasonable people fear
- >sharks, but only neurotics are so scared they stay out of the water.
-
- >On the other hand, to imply that the fear itself is unreasonable or the
- >result of incompetence is not only insulting, but also effectively
- >denies the existence of a significant social problem, namely our
- >grotesque overreliance on cars, with all the evils that cars bring in
- >their train -- waste, pollution, sprawl, and a scandalous rate of
- >deaths and injuries.
-
- Readers will decide for themselves whether Forester responded
- to my point, or to a different one of his own devising.
-
- 2) The sweeping characterization of "environmentalists" is just plain
- wrong. Forester thinks I'm an "environmentalist", and I don't object to
- the term, but I certainly don't hold the views he inveighs against, and
- neither do many of the other sinister Greenies who have felt the
- Forester lash. It would be advisable to aim this implement more
- accurately. For example, Forester can berate the Sierra Club to his
- heart's content and I will cheer myself hoarse for him.
-
-
- --Michael Smith
-
-