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- Path: sparky!uunet!gatech!asuvax!asuacad!idswb
- Organization: Arizona State University
- Date: Tuesday, 29 Dec 1992 13:16:47 MST
- From: <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
- Message-ID: <92364.131647IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
- Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
- Subject: Re: ALL: Soaps on Usenet, Chgo Sun-Times Fri 12/25/92
- References: <BzuA4A.ItJ@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
- Lines: 152
-
- Greg writes:
- >It's been ages since I've posted "anythin'" (a little DOOL humor) since
- >I gave up DOOL cold turkey (clean since May 22, '92), but I wanted to
- >perform this public service during this holiday season, especially for
- >Nancy Baym.
-
- Greg, I'm sure it wasn't hard to give up dold turkey around May of '92.
- That's when DOOL was really sad.
- >
- >The following is the text of an article appearing on page 30 of today's
- >_Chicago_Sun-Times_, reprinted here in whole & without permission. All
- >typos (if any!) are mine. Opinions/views expressed are those of the
- >writer & Ms. Baym.
- >
- It may make you feel good to know that I didn't see any typos. Thanks
- for the article Greg.
- >------------------------- ARTICLE TEXT FOLLOWS-------------------------
- >
- > Soap Opera Fans Leave Sofa For Computer-Age Critiques
- > By Jim Ritter
- > Staff Writer
- >
- General Hospital story deleted because I don't watch it.
-
- > The Bobbie-Tiffany fight is one of the burning issues that
- >viewers are debating on an electronic bulletin board monitored
- >by Baym for her thesis at the University of Illinois at
- >Urbana.
- > The bulletin board is part of a computer network known as
- >Usenet. Anyone with a computer that's connected to the
- >network can read and send messages. It's like talk radio,
- >without the host.
-
- I kinda like this description.
-
- > Baym pays particular attention to "All My Children," "One
- >Life to Live" and "General Hospital." She has read 60,000
- >messages so far and interviewed many of the people who wrote
- >them.
-
- Nancy, just curious.....
- Were those interviews via e-mail or were they in person?
-
- > Scholars have been researching soap opera fans since the
- >first radio soaps in the 1930s. Fans are usually described as
- >isolated loners.
-
- Yeah, right!
-
- > But that's not what Baym has found.
- > "Fans have been much maligned over the years," said Baym, a
- >visiting teaching associate in speech communications. "These
- >people are not stupid or isolated. They lead rich, full
- >lives."
-
- Thanks Nancy, I never thought as myself as a nitwit or isolated.
- In fact, I have many, many friends, a husband, four kids, and
- relatives all over the place who I'm constantly in touch with.
- Isolated, yeah right!
-
- > Each day, soap fans write between 100 and 150 messages on
- >Usenet. A typical message is 300 to 800 words long.
-
- Gee, the updates usually are much, much longer.
-
- > Messages may express opinions on such vital questions as
- >whether Brian on "All My Children" should be with Hayley (who
- >dumped him but wants him back) or Dixie (Brian's dim-witted
- >new girlfriend.)
- > When it appeared that Tad would return to "All My Children"
- >after a two-year absence, viewers held a lottery to guess when
- >he would reappear. (The winner accurately predicted it would
- >be five minutes before the end of a Friday episode.)
-
- Wow! This sounds like an interesting idea. Instead of guessing
- when they're returning, maybe some of us should guess when some
- of them are leaving :-)
-
- > Usenet links up universities, government labs and computer
- >and software companies. The soap opera bulletin board draws
- >comments from engineers, grad students, scientists, technical
- >writers and secretaries.
-
- At least this article didn't go into the lives and times of
- secretaries.
-
- > Prodigy, a commercial on-line service, offers a soap opera
- >chat line on one of its 400 electronic bulletin boards. It
- >draws hundreds of messages a day, a spokeswoman said.
- > "Soap watching is in part a public conversational activity,"
- >Baym said. "One of the main reasons people watch soaps is so
- >they can talk to other people."
-
- Especially since I discovered the net. I've found that I tape
- more often just so I can be more knowledgable on the net.
-
- > About 70 percent of Usenet's soap opera bulletin board
- >participants are women.
-
- I guess I'm not the minority anymore.
-
- > "Soaps offer a way to talk about the nuances of
- >relationships and emotions without being personal," Baym said.
- > Nevertheless, people occasionally do get personal. After
- >episodes about rape, racial beatings and hatred of gays,
- >viewers have described their own experiences.
-
- Not to mention inconsistiencies. I've noticed (when someone forgets
- to put the name in a header) that other groups also talk about when
- the writers forget a past storyline, name, or when something isn't
- within character.
-
- > But viewers generally don't take soaps too seriously.
- > "There's a mantra people use repeatedly," Baym said.
- >"I.O.A.S. It's only a soap."
-
- Another mantra people use is saying what we want to happen, in reverse.
- for instance if we want santa to bring us something for Christmas, we
- say he wouldn't bring us that item. Therefore, hoping that TPTB will
- hear us and do the opposite, like they usually do.
-
- >
- >------------------------------ END OF ARTICLE--------------------------
- >
- >Included with the article is a photo of Nancy Baym with the caption,
- >"Daytime soap operas mingle with the world of academics for Nancy Baym,
- >who is studying viewers for her thesis."
- >
- Congratulations Nancy! A special good luck on your thesis. I'm currently
- a Graduate secretary and know the many hours of research and frustration
- that goes into writing and presenting the thesis. Of course, as long as
- you enjoy computers, you picked a wonder subject.
-
- >Happy Holidays everyone! :^)
-
- Happy holidays to you too Greg and thanks again for posting this. I'm not
- sure whether you posted it on the 24th or on Christmas day but, thanks
- for the thoughtfulness.
-
- Sue
-
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