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- From: anderson@allvax.enet.dec.com (Dave Anderson)
- Subject: Re: What really happened after Boskone 24 (was Re: Arisia vs. Boskone)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.210801.5977@ryn.mro4.dec.com>
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- References: <9212311816.AA20997@enet-gw.pa.dec.com>
- Date: 31 DEC 92 15:26:09 EST
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- In article <9212311816.AA20997@enet-gw.pa.dec.com>, dee@ranger.enet.dec.com ("Donald E. Eastlake 3rd, LJO2/I4, 1-508-486-2358 31-Dec-1992 1315") writes...
- >(Sorry this isn't linked to the earlier messages but my local new server seems
- >to have developed a problem where posting appears locally but don't get
- >propagated so I'm posting throught the DECWRL gateway via mail.)
- >
- >>From: anderson@allvax.enet.dec.com (Dave Anderson)
- >>Subject: What really happened after Boskone 24 (was Re: Arisia vs. Boskone)
- >>Message-ID: <1992Dec30.194328.5873@ryn.mro4.dec.com>
- >
- >>In addition to this problem our new hotels, though interested in our business,
- >>were rather skittish (based on what they'd heard about the previous Boskone).
- >>If we'd had any significant problems at Boskone 25 they almost certainly would
- >>have refused to have us back, and Boskone would have died. As a result, we had
- >>to restrict anything that might cause hotel problems. We were forced to be
- >>more restrictive than we wanted to be, since excess restrictions would merely
- >>annoy people (unpleasant for all concerned, but the convention would survive)
- >>while too little restriction could destroy the convention.
- >
- >The restrictions adopted were just one a praticular set of restrictions. I
- >don't see that NESFA "had" to or was "forced" to adopt that particular set.
-
- My point was not about the exact set of restrictions actually adopted, but
- rather that *some* unpleasantly severe set of restrictions was *required* at
- Boskone 25 if we were to have a reasonable assurance of being able to hold
- Boskone 26.
-
- >> It did say that, as
- >>part of 'downsizing' the convention, we intended to refocus it on those things
- >>of most interest to the group doing the work of running the convention. This
- >>was not because we were 'against' the aspects that were being eliminated, but
- >>because there was too much to fit comfortably in a smaller convention (and
- >>because a number of people were getting tired of the additional work caused by
- >>including areas in which they had no interest -- refocusing Boskone had been
- >>discussed for a couple of years before this time, but previously inertia had
- >>won).
- >
- >Much of the above is substantially wrong. Boskone was restricted to exclude
- >media, gaming, costuming, etc. as a matter of policy, not due to staffing or
- >facility availability. Many of the more dominant people in NESFA are
- >explicitly and vocally anti-media, anti-gaming, and anti-costume at least in
- >terms of what they want at a con. This is certainly their right if that is the
- >way they feel. The restriction of Boskone to SF literature, SF art, science,
- >and their fandoms was announced before it was certain what facilities were
- >going to be used. No effort was made to determine if personnel would be
- >available for activities outside the restrictions, as they had in previous
- >years, or not. In fact some people who had enjoyed and taken pride in running
- >or working on facets of Boskone that were considered particularly attractive to
- >people being dropped were effectively told to go away unless, in some cases,
- >they were willing to run things within the new restrictions. It is also true
- >that some such people were not active in NESFA activities other than Boskone,
- >were not voting members of NESFA, and thus did not have a vote on the final
- >decision.
-
- We seem to be remembering events somewhat differently. While there were some
- people in the 'anti-' camp, most of the active NESFen felt much as I have
- stated. I don't remember it ever coming to a formal vote (though people who
- only worked at Boskone would still have tended to miss the discussion, by not
- being around during the spring and summer).
-
- [If I remember correctly, most of this was discussed at various informal
- meetings and was never written down. Since memories (mine included) aren't
- generally all that accurate, I don't intend to pursue this any further.]
-
- Dave (anderson@allvax.enet.dec.com)
-
- Me? Speak for DEC? HA!
-