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- From: dgg@think.com (David Grubbs)
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- Subject: Re: Arisia vs. Boskone
- Date: 21 Dec 92 15:44:39
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- In-reply-to: figmo@netcom.com's message of Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:52:39 GMT
-
- figmo@netcom.com (Lynn Gold) writes:
-
- > There are two cons in the Boston area in the winter.
- >
- > Apparently, there's some kind of rivalry between them, based on the
- > msgs I've seen.
- >
- > Not being familiar with east coast fan politics, what IS the
- > difference between Arisia and Boskone (other than their names, dates,
- > and locations)? What is the "battle" all about?
-
- Since 1971 I've attended a dozen Boskones, including the last seven, about 10
- Worldcons, including all three Noreascons, another 10 cons in New York, Philly
- and Baltimore, and all the Arisia conventions. Though I'm not a member of
- either committee, by knowing a lot of them by sight, and a few of them a bit
- better, I have probably heard most of the war stories from multiple
- viewpoints.
-
- Boskone concentrates on books and artwork. Through the 70's and 80's Boskone
- grew large enough to include movies, games and other peripheral (from their
- viewpoint) activities, to broaden the variety of entertainments for the still
- mostly book-and-art crowd. I liked the idea of having a smattering of all the
- different SF activities. It added color and fun. I could filk, watch movies,
- attend costume shows and still see a first class art show and literature
- program.
-
- The last two Big Boskones were, for my own enjoyment, better than half the
- Worldcons I've been to. I even volunteered to help a few times. Until then,
- I hadn't realized what a difficult job it is to keep badgeless turkeys out of
- art shows ("But I'm with the *artist*!") Or how miserably people treat you if
- you stand behind a counter ("Hurry up boy, I have better things to do than
- wait on shopkeepers! Sniff!").
-
- But Boskone never cost as much as a Worldcon. That, combined with the
- increase in the kind of "peripheral" entertainment that attracts the generally
- illiterate TV generation, changed the tone of Boskones by swelling the ranks
- of the let's-get-rowdy-and-grab-some-free-beer geeks who have $25 (but not
- $120) to spend for a weekend. They were mostly teenagers who followed their
- SF-fan friends into the con looking for movies, games and excitement. The big
- failure occurred when the Boskone committees didn't realize that their
- peripheral entertainments were the main drawing card for much of the crowd.
-
- Something hit critical mass. A very small group of troublemakers set off fire
- alarms and caused too much noise. Mundane Hotel functionaries, who don't like
- SF "weirdos" too much anyway, overreacted in some strange ways. The reason
- it became such a big deal is that there were three high-profile side-effects:
- (i.e. Locus and SF Chronicle reported it heavily and every con for years was
- filled with the "gossip")
-
- 1. Boskone underwent a period of self-examination, jumped out of town,
- and instituted all sorts of rules to try to cut down on attendance.
- Some people objected to the rules for various reasons. The big
- problem was that there was no way to describe who to get rid of
- without blanketing people who didn't deserve to be included in the
- restrictions. A no-win situation for all concerned.
-
- 2. The Hotels tried to include the NESFA troubles in the MCFI's
- on-going negotiations over the '89 Worldcon (Noreascon III). They
- threatened to back out of deals. Lawyers ensued. Anytime lawyers
- become noticeable in fandom, something major has gone wrong. A
- regional problem had gone world-wide. It drew world-class
- attention.
-
- 3. Some of the people who felt an affront from the Boskone con
- committee decided to create another con. I'm sure they would
- characterize their motivations as more sophisticated than
- "affronted", but if they had felt any camaraderie with NESFA, they
- would have tried to help, not escape. So Arisia was born. They
- chose to schedule it for winter and they chose a name from the same
- Doc Smith universe where Boskone came from. "Rivals?" I can't
- believe there is *no* rivalry involved. But who knows what lurks
- in the hearts of fen?
-
-
- Boskone is smaller now, with fewer pros showing up and very few "peripheral"
- activities, but it still has a very good art show and lots of books.
- How their move back toward Boston this year will affect it is unknown.
-
- Arisia started out kind of cheesy, especially the Art Show, but it is
- improving in quality as the con committee gains experience. It mainly aims at
- "media" SF, a sort of generic name for "anything that requires little
- reading," but it seems to have a youthful vitality that is refreshing (in
- small doses) for those of us who aren't college freshmen any longer.
-
- I go to both cons, say hello to my friends, buy books, watch what there is to
- watch, make grandiose plans to be on the other side of the rostrum someday,
- occasionally (but not too often any more) volunteer to help and generally
- ignore the mickey-mouse.
- --
- David G. Grubbs (dgg@ksr.com) Kendall Square Research Corp.
- If a person offends you and you are in doubt as to whether it was intentional
- or not, do not resort to extreme measures. Simply watch your chance and hit
- him with a brick. -- Mark Twain ("Advice to Youth" Speech, 1882)
-