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- From: pts2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PAUL THOMAS STROBL)
- Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
- Subject: Re: the word FUCK
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.025414.52300@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 02:54:14 GMT
- Organization: Lehigh University
- Lines: 73
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- In article <BzMCs9.33D@cs.dal.ca>, kumar@ug.cs.dal.ca (kumar yelubandi) writes:
- >>Subject: Re: fuck / jtrue
- >>Message-ID: <72003@cup.portal.com>
- >
- >>What? Fuck is a perfectly good anglo-sax
- >>to describe what our uptight culture has only
- >>medical terms(mostly) to describe.
- >
- >>I don't think it implies institutionalized misogyny
- >>at all. Everybody who has sex fucks. Are Gay men and
- >>women who use the term indulging in hatred of women?
- >>In rec.arts.poems, jtrue@acpub.duke.edu (jtrue) writes:
- >
- >>>
- >>> -jtrue
- >>>
- >>> PS:
- >>> The biggest problem with
- >>> fuck with respect to sex
- >>> is that it essentially means hate
- >>> (hence the violence;
- >>> toward women by men).
- >>>
- >
- >
- >
- > Hmmm...others can interpret differently, but sex is essentially
- >a physical act. It's a mashing of the groins...a collision of cock and
- >cunt to put it bluntly. 'Fuck' is merely the documenting term.
- >
- > As far as promoting violence towards wimmin...possibly.
- >Unfortunately, there's a certain fraction in the community that engages
- >in violence towards wimmin...the cretins belonging to this group often see
- >wimmin only as property, something to beat up and beat off on.
- >To these, 'fuck' is the working term for sex. Love and intimacy humanizes
- >wimmin; 'fuck' dehumanizes them to masses of meat...hence the
- >working terminology for this cretinous class. In this sexual union,
- >there is a 'fucker' (the cretin), and the 'fuckee' (the mass of meat).
- >The classic dichotomy of "to fuck' or 'to be fucked' results.
- >
- > However, there is an innocuous side to the word 'fuck'. Most
- >people use it as a term of endearment (sarcasm attempted here). The
- >word 'fuck' is a method of venting steam, a channel for negative energy
- >to drain through. In many instances, it is a substitute for violence...
- >the 'action of inaction' so to speak. Hence, it is a handy term for
- >heading off violence, "two dogs barking because both are afraid to bite".
- >(it could be used to incite violence, too, I suppose...but more often
- >to diffuse, I think)
- >
- > And of course, there is the 'erotic interpretation'. The term
- >'fuck' is (paradoxically) an intellectual stimulant. It's a dirty word
- >that ignites erotic fantasy...and as apples on an apple tree, it is common
- >in the phraseology of mutual vocal foreplay. In any resulting sexual
- >union, there are two 'fuckers' (both partners in a couple) and two 'fuckees'
- >(again, both partners). Dichotomy being included, on occasion, by mutual
- >consent.
- >
- > Conclusion: To reconcile many different usages of the word
- > 'fuck' into one common consequence (ie. violence
- > against wimmin) is invalid, IMHO.
- >
- > Kumar
-
- Poetry anyone???
-
- --Tex
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