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- From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
- Subject: Re: TOP TEN MOVIES, as of 23 December 1993
- Organization: AT&T
- Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 17:02:46 GMT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan2.170246.16610@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
- References: <2343@hsdndev.UUCP> <76028@apple.apple.COM> <C077nx.1z8.1@cs.cmu.edu>
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- In article <C077nx.1z8.1@cs.cmu.edu> tmohler+@cs.cmu.edu (Tim Mohler) writes:
- >In article <76028@apple.apple.COM> mattm@Apple.COM (Matthew Melmon) writes:
- >>I think, however, that the failure of X to perfrom well is
- >>a surprise to a lot of people (myself included, actually).
- >
- >Not to me. About half of the people I've talked to about X said
- >they didn't want to watch "three hours of being told how evil
- >white men are."
- >
- >I think that is insensitive, and downright stupid myself, but
-
- Certainly "insensitive" and "stupid" sound very "correct" when dealing
- with social issues, but for people who were around when Malcolm was
- alive, much of what they heard from him was exactly that "white people
- are evil." You can lay that blame on Malcolm, or the press or whatever,
- but that's the message they received. If anything is "insensitive" and
- "stupid", it's not realizing that comunication does not necessarily
- improve when slander and general name-calling constitutes a significant
- portion of it.
-
- Secondly, Spike Lee, in my opinion, makes well-balanced movies, but his
- personal antics, esp. with regard to the press, make him out rather
- childish and more than not, smacking of racist attitudes. Again,
- you can lay blame for that wherever, and it's hard to believe that
- a guy that puts out his films really "is" the personna he projects.
- But if it's his way of sparking controversy, it may well have back-
- fired on him this time.
-
- I wouldn't be at all surprised if Malcolm X enjoys a more sustained
- viewership in video than most films due to word of mouth. Those that
- were UN- OR MIS-INFORMED (NOT STUPID AND INSENSITIVE) to think X is only
- telling "white people how evil they are" may hear that it is really an
- enjoyable film for many people.
-
- It's an effective PC cop-out to call anyone that disagrees with you
- "insensitive", but it is just a cop-out, and may very be an example of
- what folks that give Lee problems over budget have reacted to. And
- that knee-jerk action and reaction does little good in the long run.
-
- Lastly, I expect Spike Lee will be claiming racism as the reason
- for poor box-office showing as part of his usual antics, but frankly,
- I don't think he's got nearly as much to worry about as he would have
- in those pre-video years.
-
- I did think it was amusing his claim that his movie "needed the boxoffice
- more" than another movie (Aladdin, I think?). Certainly that's very
- constructive. I can imagine the theater owners or folks at Disney:
-
- "Hey, let's not even look at those stubs. Just put them in the 'X'
- pile. Spike NEEDS US!"
-
- >I don't doubt that these attitudes have a fairly strong hold
- >on a large portion of the movie-going audience.
-
- Not wanting to be criticized? Yes, that would be true of most people.
- Rather insensitive not to realize that.
-
- >
- >The movie X may or may not have been three hours of telling white
- >men how evil they are, but prejudging the movie based on a
- >non-existent knowledge of what Malcolm X said and did (at least
- >in the people I talked to) is pretty stupid.
-
- You have discretionary income and choose to use it to see a movie
- that you have more information about, and judge to be a "better
- bet" for a nice evening? Incredibly presumptuous, I think, to
- tell people what movie to see, and call them stupid if they
- disagree. After all, liking a movie is somewhat subjective.
- >
- >Not to bring in a conspiracy or anything, but when I went to
- >see X, it had been out for only two weeks, but had already been
- >moved to the smallest screen in the theater. I wondered if
- >perhaps the theater-owners had pegged the movie as a
- >"minority" film. If this is true, perhaps there are some theater
- >owners who decided not to show X, thinking it would not have
- >a wide appeal.
-
- It's possible. But it's also possible that theater owners would like
- to maximize their income, and that X only required a small screen
- due to its draw at that particular theater.
-
- Usher: "Hey, look at all those people standing outside the 'X'
- screen. It's sold out all the time! And Aladdin has lots of seats
- empty! What do you suppose we should do?"
-
- Theater Manager: "I don't know... But you know, I'd rather turn
- those people away than let them see a 'minority' picture. I just
- don't want their money to see a movie about how evil white people are!"
-
- Usher: "Good call, boss. I see why you're the manager."
-
- I saw X (do you realize that our use of "X" will screw up hypothetical
- movie examples from now on?) as soon as I could, in a complex with 14 screens,
- three of the largest of which were devoted to X. I had to go twice,
- driving over 40 miles to see it, as it was sold out for two shows the
- first time. And when I did see it, there were NO more seats available.
-
- But then, that's only my personal anecdotal sample, and worth very
- little to prove anything, note.
-
- >My random thoughts
- >Tim
-
- GMS
-