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- From: feathers@serss0 (Michael Feathers)
- Subject: Re: Sick and tired of cries of sexism (was Re: 9 1/2 Weeks)
- Organization: Florida International University, Miami
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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:42:33 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec29.230808.25460@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
- >In article <C00ys3.ID3@fiu.edu> feathers@serss0 (Michael Feathers) writes:
- >>If I remember correctly, testosterone levels have been correlated with
- >>spatial reasoning ability in several studies. Apparently testosterone
- >>affects the area of the brain that responds to visual stimulus during
- >>development.
- >>
- >>In addition, males typically have a stronger physiological response (as
- >>measured by skin conductivity, heart-rate etc.,) than women in response to
- >>visual stimulus. On the other hand, the skin sensitivity of the most
- >>sensitive man is nowhere near the skin sensitivity of the least sensitive
- >>woman.
- >>
- >>This is not to draw conclusions about which is better, but these are true
- >>differences that are rarely pointed out. In fact, much of the research that
- >>is done on sex differences has been swept under the rug and the researchers
- >>ostracized. Apparently, some believe that admitting that all is not nurture
- >>and there are some natural differences, is tantamount to stating that women
- >>are inferior. The fact is that we are as different as apples and oranges and
- >>no one can say which is objectively better.
- >>
- >>When I was a kid I thought that cultures always progress towards knowledge
- >>and that all taboos are ancient leftovers. I've come to discover that the
- >>kind of information I just posted is rapidly becoming taboo. Perhaps it
- >>will be accepted in twenty to fifty years, but right now it is one of the
- >>strongest taboos that we have.
- >
- >Well, pardon my cynicism, but I believe that if we admit that there are any
- >kinds of differences, then we have to admit that we are "optimized" for
- >different activities, and that is "bad" by today's standards.
- >
- >A second thing that would happen is that we would have to reconcile
- >the difference between "average" or "representative" values and the
- >rights of the individual. For some reason, people seem to have a difficulty
- >realizing that being a member of a group with any particular characteristic
- >should neither entitle nor deny an individual from being judged on their
- >own merits. Denying differences allows us to ignore the issue entirely
- >and not have to actually use our minds to evaluate the issue.
- >
- >A third thing appears to be an inability not to apply some moral
- >values to things. It must be "Good" or "Bad". And "different" means
- >"better" or "worse". Therefore, the easiest road is to deny the differences.
- >
- >I'm of the opinion that things are gradually getting better, but I'm not
- >sure that mental laziness will ever be minimized to the point of not
- >needing simple ideas and taboos to relieve free people of the responsibility
- >of thinking.
- >
- >GMS
-
- Well worded. I have the same cynicism about the ability of people in general
- to be non-judgemental about differences. I've always thought that prejudice
- is a cognitive function. People pre-judge and form generalizations about
- recognizable groups of people or things. It is simply one of the ways we
- reason. Generalizations can be misleading and the remedy is recognizing that
- generalizations are not always true.
-
- Beyond that, there is the "us & them" mentality problem. People usually
- identify with particular groups in opposition to other groups.
-
- I have the feeling that these things will be the ultimate un-doing of the
- trend toward multi-culturalism that we see today. It is hard to give people
- categories and then not have them fall into disharmony with people in other
- categories.
-
- I feel that these problems will always be with us, perhaps even if early
- education is used to alleviate them a bit. On the balance, I'd rather that
- scientific inquiry is not stifled when exploring the differences among people.
-
- Someone should make a movie about this so that the discussion is more in
- line with this newsgroup :-)
-
- Michael Feathers
-
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