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- From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
- Subject: Re: Sick and tired of cries of sexism (was Re: 9 1/2 Weeks)
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- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:43:40 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.004340.25594@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
- References: <BD.92Dec27093825@fluent.UUCP> <Bzz1E5.HHt@fiu.edu> <1992Dec28.230130.15387@psych.toronto.edu>
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- In article <1992Dec28.230130.15387@psych.toronto.edu> anna@psych.toronto.edu (Anna Filippone) writes:
- >In article <Bzz1E5.HHt@fiu.edu> feathers@serss0 (Michael Feathers) writes:
- >>
- >>>>> to believe that our society dictates men's satisfaction over
- >>>>> women's..i see beer commercials that satisfy men's needs [i
- >>>>> drink beer, too], sportscar commercials [i would like one,
- >>>>> too], and many other instances where men's pleasure is the
- >>>>> aim..not women's.
- >>
- >>I'm sure that one of the reasons that this topic shows up in relation to
- >>movies is the difference between male and female stimulation. Men are
- >>predominately stimulated by images. It is biological and it is no
- >>accident that the market for pornography has always been and continues to
- >>be predominately driven by males. On the other hand, female stimulation
- >>is more situational and tactile.
- >
- >Umm....actually lots of recent research evidence shows that this ain't true.
- >Women ARE aroused by images. I'd give the authors of the research papers to
-
- I don't think "ARE" constitutes "predominately" [sic]. The difference
- may be one of average levels. And that is borne out by the marketplace,
- which, you may agree, panders to existing preferences, and cultivates
- them to be more significant if possible. But if I were to reinterpret
- your statement to mean that you really disagreed with the original poster,
- and that you thought that men and women react identically to visual and
- other stimuli, I'd say that contradicted all that I've read about the
- subject since college, not to say that it definitely isn't so, note.
-
- >you but I'm on holidays & don't have a university library handy. I'm sure
- >Masters & Johnson would have had something to say about it though. It's just
- >the stereotype of this "biological" difference has continued the male market
- >for pornography.
-
- Actually, I'd be hard-pressed to see that objectifying men in "romance"
- novels and women in pictorial pornography are so different. And I don't
- believe the sellers of pornography are overlooking a female market out
- of ethical concerns. There have been attempts at "defining" pornography,
- but if the definition is to include anything that lessens the quality
- of life, so to speak, of anyone, I'd say trashy literature fills the bill.
- However, the stereotype is that pictures are bad, words are good. I
- personally can't prove either.
- >
- >Anna
- >
- >p.s. Guess we're getting pretty off topic here, eh?
-
- Yes. Not that I mind.
-
- GMS
-