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- From: irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith)
- Subject: Re: The Cook...Lover/women's response
- Message-ID: <1992Dec27.092518.14188@muddcs.claremont.edu>
- Originator: irilyth@fenris
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- Organization: Evil Geniuses For A Better Tomorrow
- References: <1992Dec27.060611.25351@netcom.com>
- Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 09:25:18 GMT
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- Eric Strayer (estrayer@netcom.com) writes:
-
- > Regarding the movie The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover, [snip]
-
- Some friends and I saw Cook/Thief/Wife/Lover at some point while I was an
- undergrad at Swarthmore, though I don't remember exactly when. The campus
- movie group had brought it as one of the standard weekend movies, and we saw
- it in a reasonably nice theater on campus (part of Swat's new performing
- arts center, easily as nice as a mediocre commercial movie theater).
-
- Our reactions were somewhat mixed, but nearly all negative in one way or
- another. I thought that it was the most absolutely disgusting movie I'd ever
- seen. There were more vile people doing more vile things, both in quantity
- and quality, than I had ever watched in two hours of cinema. I've never been
- in a war, I've never been in a concentration camp, and I'm sure the film-
- watching experience _pales_ in comparison to some of the true horror that
- goes on in the world. But I saw nothing redeeming in the movie at all: it
- seemed to me like someone had said "Let's see just how vile and disgusting a
- movie we can make, just to be vile and disgusting," and did. It was not a
- poorly made movie or a low-quality movie: it was an _ugly_ movie.
-
- I didn't come away from it feeling as if it could have had any purpose other
- than to disgust the audience. Others of my friends who saw it thought that
- it had some redeeming value, that it conveyed an important message, but
- though my memory is fuzzy, I don't think that they were able to articulate
- what this message might have been. Some walked out in the middle; some
- walked out at the beginning. Some refused to talk about it because they felt
- so ill.
-
- I don't think anyone was offended by the film; we were all just revolted. I
- would never, under any circumstances, voluntarily watch that movie again,
- unless someone extremely convincing persuaded me that there was more to it
- than revulsion for revulsion's sake, and that I would somehow benefit by
- seeing it again in light of this fact. I found A Clockwork Orange to be
- deeply disturbing, and would only see it again with difficulty, but I saw a
- motive behind its method beyond a simple desire to evoke an emotion--and I
- probably will see it again some day. But CTWL was _just nasty_.
-
- I'd be interested to hear from anyone with a different point of view.
- Remember, though, that I saw it at least a year ago, and possibly two, and
- my memory of the details may be dim.
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