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- From: jdt@ulysses.att.com (Jonathan D. Trudel[ftd])
- Subject: Re: Kevin Costner (was: The Most Overrated Actor)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.223852.18202@ulysses.att.com>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:38:52 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec21.203050.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu>, bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
- |> In article <1992Dec21.210303.27309@ulysses.att.com>, jdt@ulysses.att.com
- |> (Jonathan D. Trudel[ftd]) writes:
- |>
- |> But we really can't label Kevin Costner a "BAD ACTOR" based on a poor showing
- |> in one film.
-
- I never said he was a bad actor, I said he was overrated. I find his acting
- to be flat, in general. He doesn't have much depth. He hasn't really changed
- the types of roles he plays. Take Nicholson, for example, or Al Pacino.
- Both of them emote well. Costner doesn't. That's why I find him overrated.
-
- |> The orginal statment (which you can certainly ignore, but I wanted to get
- |> back on track) was that he was overrated as an ACTOR, not whether he stands
- |> above others...I say he is a fine actor, not one of the best, but certainly
- |> not overrated.
-
- Then what does overrated mean? Costner, in my opinion, doesn't stand
- above others, so he is therefore overrated. He's had the good fortune
- to star in some good movies, but being in a good movie does not make him
- good as well. Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, and Dances with Wolves were
- much better than average stories, adn he was lucky enough to be in those
- movies. (I guess he was so great in The Big Chill that they edited out his
- part so as not to outshine the rest of the film :-)
-
- |> > I'd almost say the same thing about Tom Cruise, but at I feel that
- |> > his performance in Rain Man made up for a few bad films...
- |>
- |> And I'd counter that with _Bull Durham_ and _Dances With Wolves_ *easily*
- |> making up for _Robin Hood_ and _The Bodyguard_.
-
- Nope, not by my definition. My feeling is that you have to flop before
- you can make up for a "bad" role or set of roles. Tom Cruise had recently
- made Days of Thunder and also Cocktail (whatever that bartending movie
- was called), and *then* he starred in Rain Man. He had everywhere to go
- but down. Right now, I'd say Costner was in the same place Cruise was then.
-