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- Subject: Re: The Doctor's Next Regeneration
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:33:15 GMT
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- >tagg@hg.uleth.ca (Nathaniel Tagg) writes:
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- >> I was just reading the very interesting, if somewhat over sentimental,
- >>stories of David E. Woon about Nyssa being transformed into a Time Lord. We
- >>have seen women time lords before. My proposition is this: why could the
- >>Doctor not regenerate as a woman?
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- I've wondered about the scarcity of visible female Time Lords in the
- Gallifrey-based stories and theorized that maybe Time Lords are female for
- only 1 or 2 regenerations out of the lot. That would certainly serve as a
- population brake, which such a long-lived species could well need. Being
- actually born female could be a bit of a rarity. Romana, born female and
- regenerating female, might be even more unusual -- which would explain why
- the Time Lords wanted her back so badly only _after_ her regeneration.
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- >> Don't just reject this out of hand. Although the producers at BBC would
- >>never allow it, it is an interesting thought. Naturally, the personality would
- >>have to be unfeminine, so as to keep withing the bounds of the Doctor's boyish
- >>nature.
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- Uh, Nathaniel, would you then say if the Doctor were female that her talent
- for getting her own way by charm and indirection were part of her "feminine"
- personality?
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- >>But, with proper casting, and very careful development, why not? One
- >>of the great things about the Doctor is that he is compleletly sexless,
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- One occasionally wonders. Particularly about Pertwee's Doctor with Liz
- Shaw or Jo Grant, or Davison's Doctor in "Kinda".
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- >>and greedless,
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- In "Planet of Spiders", Pertwee's Doctor did confess to a greed for
- knowledge -- a story about the Doctor being bribed/blackmailed in that fashion
- would be interesting.
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- >>a paragon of ethics (although not virtue). If the correct spirit
- >>were maintained, I don't see why the Doctor could not regenerate, at least
- >>once, as a woman.
- >> (Just imagine the next reunion with the Brigadier!)
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- It's worth doing for that alone!
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- >> Disscusion, fellow Whovians?
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- >dempsttm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Tanya M. Dempster) writes:
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- >Well...The Five Doctors seems to show that in the Doctors early years, women
- >were treated different by him (like when he tells Tegan to go get him some
- >coffee and Davison intervenes before Tegan blows her top at him). This would
- >seem to indicate that he cannot since he would hardly treat women differently if
- >he could become one himself.
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- Hartnell's doctor did this sort of thing a number of times, but always to
- _human_ women. The 1st Doctor may well have made the classic anthropologist's
- mistake of believing uncritically what a culture _says_ about its members (in
- this case, that women are somehow innately more capable in a kitchen)
- without doing a reality check. He has obviously since learned better.
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- Besides, The Doctor is close to 2/3 of his
- >regenerations down. To all of a sudden make him a woman would have to answer
- >why not before?
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- Lots of potential reasons, from "his regenerations have mostly been in
- emergencies and therefore he didn't have much control over the result" (there's
- certainly been references to indicate that) to "he just didn't feel like
- it".
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- > But...for an interesting look at the Doctor being female, I recommend
- >the amateur videos of Ryan K. Johnson!!! They were very tastefully made and
- >in my opinion of pretty good quality! He I mean she... The Doctor gives a
- >simple explanation and then acts like it's no big deal.
- > Mystic
- >(alex.soto@analog.com)
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- I believe I've seen these at cons, and they do indeed strike just the right
- note. The actress who played the Doctor was excellent; I wish I
- could remember her name. I also wish she'd touched up the dark roots that
- showed in her blond hair! A minor thing, but the idea of the Doctor as a
- bottle blond somehow interfered with my suspension of disbelief. (Yes, I
- know Peter Davison was, but the evidence wasn't "in my face", so to speak.)
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- I have never had any trouble visualizing a woman playing the Doctor. Just
- think of the casting possibilities! My personal choice would be Penelope
- Keith, best known in the USA as the snooty suburban housewife in "The
- Good Neighbors" and as Audrey in "To the Manor Born". The class of
- Pertwee and the sass of Colin Baker in one package! Or how about (let's
- dream big, gang!) Diana Rigg or Jean Marsh?
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- Anyone else care to make nominations?
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- Crystal Hagel
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