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- From: kamorgan@athena.mit.edu (Keith Morgan)
- Subject: Re: Self-knowledge of bookstore workers
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- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:51:36 GMT
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- Earlier this month Fiona Webster proposed a thread for post-holiday
- consideration. I resurrect it now. Since some time has gone by I have
- reproduced most of Fiona's original article and added my comment at
- the bottom.
-
- In article <1992Dec17.191623.24770@grebyn.com> fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster) writes:
-
- >...I'm still intrigued by the
- >whole notion of patterns of ignorance that are "curious" (that
- >was my word--not "appalling"). Maybe we can do that thread some
- >other time--I'm sure everyone has packages to mail and other things
- >to do of more pressing importance. Nonetheless, what struck
- >me about the bookstore owner I mentioned--and we needn't restrict
- >this line of thought to bookstore owners/factoti either--was the
- >way her areas of ignorance were so widely scattered across the
- >map. My impression is, most educated people have large identifia-
- >ble areas of ignorance--e.g., one of mine is the history of politics,
- >wars, and potentates--in which the separate items of ignorance
- >cluster together. No one should be surprised to find, for example,
- >that I don't know what country Ruler X belongs to, what dates corres-
- >pond to the birth of parliamentary democracies, and so on. Even if I
- >didn't know who Henry the VIIIth was, you might be astonished, but
- >it would still fit in with the general scheme. But what of those
- >interesting, curious, perhaps even admirable, souls whose patterns
- >of ignorance are more like small isolated spots here and there, rather
- >than one all-encompassing blob? That's what intrigued me about the
- >women who knew of neither "Hellraiser," nor Katherine Anne Porter,
- >nor Joe McGinnis' _Fatal_Vision_.
-
- First of all, I am reminded of a *book*, specifically one of
- David Lodge's (either *Small World* or *Changing Places*) where the
- academics play "humiliation" - the basic idea being to admit to books
- important to your field of study that you have never read. The punch
- line coming when the Shakespeare scholar (Philip Swallow?) blurts out
- that he's never read *Hamlet*. On the Henri Matisse thread I confessed
- to an ignorance of art history but I sense that fact functions as a
- part of Fiona's "general scheme." I am particularly intrigued by
- Fiona's description of "those interesting, curious, perhaps even
- admirable, souls whose patterns of ignorance are more like small
- isolated spots ..." I have met souls widely read and naturally
- inquisitive, who have absolutely no idea about x or y. There are times
- when I thought such ignorance abhorrent and at other times admirable.
- And it's the admirable part that interests me. I don't exactly know
- why but in our information-chaos-society I find it refreshing that somone
- will just not know about something and not be perturbed about it. Certainly
- there are irritating individuals who will proudly proclaim their
- ignorance about an artist, genre, or event; however, to discover
- people who are, I don't know how to say it, modestly ignorant perhaps,
- these people are interesting. OK, too long a post - what do others
- think?
-
- Keith
-
- Oh, and Fiona will have to explain who the "factoti" are.
-
-
- --
-
- Keith Morgan kamorgan@athena.mit.edu
- In the end nothing could be said of his work except that it was
- preposterous and true and totally unacceptable. Edward Whittemore
-