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- From: doom@elaine36.Stanford.EDU (Joseph Brenner)
- Subject: Re: Making notations in your books?
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- From: marc.colten
- colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com
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- I never make marks in books. Over
- the course of years I found I even
- stopped putting my name on the Probably it is a
- cover sheet. Perhaps it's some kind of reverence.
- kind of reverence for the book. But then, I've
- It's certainly not economic as I recently managed
- NEVER sell my books. I think it's to overcome my
- Exactly, but a kind of ego thing with some reluctance toward
- maybe that's the people as I occasionally get a opening a paper-
- virtue of marking second hand book with notations - back more than
- up books. It's an arrow pointing to a sentence and 45 degress...
- an assertion of the comment "right!" or "wrong!" or You've got to grow
- your mastery over whatever. I hope when I see this up sometime.
- the text. When you that they did it for school as I
- begin to read can't conceive of any reason why
- a book with pen they think a future owner would be
- in hand, every interested.
- statement is
- suddenly open to
- question. The From: Roger Squires,
- exact opposite of rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu
- the "it's in
- print, it must be As to whether marking books is
- right" attitude. morally ok, my opinion is that my
- notes, highlighting if any, It isn't likely
- increase the value of the book, that a later
- certainly for myself, and owner would
- potentially for other users as well agree with you,
- (the 'value' of the unmarked book but then there
- is not an issue with me -- no one may not be that
- gives a durn about $0.50 much reason
- paperbacks, and I keep all to care.
- The copy of Murray's technical books for myself; I also
- LOSING GROUND in mark library books, though limited Some
- the Stanford to creating an index of interesting confusion
- library has a topics on a bare page in front, of the
- review by Lester which is often cut out by libraries Golden
- Thurow stapled in when reselling the book anyway). A Rule,
- the front of it. good example is my marking up of a treating
- In a way, I copy of _The Growth of Biological future
- appreciated this, Thought_ by Ernst Mayr, which was a owners as
- because I wanted to textbook for one of my bother's you, the
- look up some grad courses. On the inside cover present
- criticism of the I wrote in a couple excellent owner
- book anyway. On quotes from Gibbon and Jean de would've
- the other hand I Meun, and created an additional liked to
- think it a tad index on the inside cover of topics have been
- obnoxious that (mostly definitions of biological treated?
- someone took it terms) not in the main index (he
- upon themselves to had already put in these self-stick
- try and discourage plastic book markers on the long I think brothers
- people from reading edge of the book that I've never are a special
- the book with this seen before, like what you would case, certainly
- rather shrill, use with file folders -- very with me. the
- irrational, killer neat); he told me after I returned flow of thought
- review. the book that he liked what I had is similar
- done. As for the practise of book enough that it's
- marking, I always use pen why in unlikely that
- the Name Of Satan And All That Is one's comments
- Unholy would you use pencil?! It will intrude on
- The reason you smudges with the merest thumb the other.
- use pencil is swipe, is quite difficult to get
- that it's less rid of (why would you want to erase My first encounter
- obtrusive and your own markings anyway), and is with "sociobiol-
- a bit less much more difficult to read than a ogy" was a pop
- permanent. good pen. I always print (not article in
- Because there script) notes, which are generally "Analog" that
- is no one limited to the supplemental index immediately
- correct way as above) with few exceptions: Many sent me for
- of reading a classic books have excellent quotes reaching for
- book, and or topics that one may want to my pen. Then
- anyone who's access in future, but which are my older brother
- done this for nearly impossible to find without read it, he
- any length of creating an index. Which brings us continued
- time has to highlighting. disecting it.
- experienced Someone reading
- the discovery The Fine Art of Highlighting: We've this at random
- that what you all heard the joke about freshmen might not realize
- once thought mindlessly highlighting the entire that was two of
- was critical book, but I think that, properly us who had marked
- now seems used, a Highlighter can be an it up.
- trivial. extremely powerful instrument. I
- think that the Highest, Noblest, <-Like most other
- Most Excellent use of a Highlighter tools. But high-
- is as a tool to *condense* a book. lighters seem
- I first did this with a textbook more often abused,
- titled _Hegel, An Introduction_, usually I think,
- by Raymond Plant (good book, BTW). by the inexper-
- I bought it way before the semester ienced who don't
- started, so I had all the time in yet understand
- the world to read it. I sat under that today's
- the pinon tree, and after chain of thought
- ruminating a few pages would go should not bind
- back and highlight, using the one forever.
- I have trouble highlighter to connect blocks of
- believing this text so as to form a readable Post-it notes
- could work for narrative encompassing the argument are far more
- any but the most of the section. So when I was valuable tools,
- poorly written done, I had a readable book that I find. I keep
- books... but then was about half the length of the a small stack
- what would you original. Not all books are of them cut to
- expect from a amenable to this approach: _Beyond tab size on
- fan of Hegel? Good and Evil_ is not such a good the inside cover
- target, but I found the technique of interesting
- worked quite well with the essays books.
- in _Genealogy of Morals_ for
- instance).
-
-
- Underlining is a phase that one has to go through, but it
- isn't the final phase. The next step is to realize that your
- own highlighting and marginal additions are also not the last
- word, and a later reader (including later versions of yourself)
- may find them more hindrance than help.
-
- Really, I think all text needs to be electronic text, and
- any reader should be able to attach a set of comments with
- hypertext links that can be searched, filtered and viewed in
- any number of ways, and let us hope that we may yet make it
- to Xanadu.
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