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- From: robj@netcom.com (Rob Jellinghaus)
- Subject: Re: Morally good hypertext
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.032333.22548@netcom.com>
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:23:33 GMT
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- In article <15213.2b37800c@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> wagner@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
- >In article <1992Dec22.215515.27418@netcom.com>, robj@netcom.com (Rob Jellinghaus) writes:
- >> No one is claiming future hypertext systems will be a panacea. But I
- >> see no reason to claim, _a priori_, that any such system--no matter
- >> how widely distributed, how anarchically organized, and how open to
- >> general discourse--will simply wind up suffering from exactly the same
- >> problems of our current one-way, single-source, mass media.
- >> uunet!netcom!robj | -- K. Eric Drexler, _Engines of Creation_
- ...
- >My optimistic techie friend, what makes you think that people disinclined
- >to walk to look at books to settle some question of fact will start
- >clattering on keyboards?
-
- I never claimed that hypertext would magically make everyone in the
- world into a dedicated and skilled researcher. Nor did I claim it
- would magically induce couch potatoes to begin writing avidly.
-
- >In fact, usenet is growing so fast that the speed required to keep all
- >that information stored will exceed c (3x10^10 cm/s) soon. No trouble
- >with relativity, though, because no information is being transmitted.
-
- Then why do _you_ bother with usenet? Think of a hypertext system as
- a much friendlier, richer, and larger version of Usenet. Might that
- not be decidedly useful to at least some of the population?
-
- >Then think again about whether hypertext will stop
- >lying demagogues who make you feel good about the world and your
- >place in it.
-
- I also never claimed hypertext would wholly supplant current media,
- with all their associated problems, nor that hypertext would spawn no
- new problems of its own. And ESPECIALLY not that it would eliminate
- all lying and all demagogues. At the most, it could make a lot more
- good information immediately accessible to people interested in using
- it. Yes, that cuts both ways.
-
- I'm not interested in persuading the entire net that hypertext will be
- the best thing since sliced bread. It may well not even be true. We
- can continue this discussion, or I would be happy to agree to
- disagree, at least until there actually _are_ some hypertext systems
- of the sort Drexler is describing. (No system has yet come close.)
- If and when that happens, we can decide whether we'd rather resume the
- discussion here on usenet, or there on whatever-it's-called.
- --
- Rob Jellinghaus | "Next time you see a lie being spread or a bad
- robj@netcom.com | decision being made out of sheer ignorance,
- robj@xanadu.com | pause, and think of hypertext."
- uunet!netcom!robj | -- K. Eric Drexler, _Engines of Creation_
-