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- From: rmc@wang.com (rmc)
- Subject: Re: KOR movie
- Organization: Wang Laboratories, Inc.
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:47:49 GMT
- Message-ID: <RMC.92Dec31104749@miyazaki.wang.com>
- In-Reply-To: ranma@pegasus.com's message of 31 Dec 92 04:02:45 GMT
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- Hmm, i guess i need to try to explain why i find KOR disappointing,
- especially the final movie. I'm going to quote from Doug Cha's
- (ranma@pegasus.com) article. I hope it doesn't look like i'm picking
- on him, especially since i use at least one quote badly out of context.
-
- It's pretty obvious that KOR is pretty good, or we could not have this
- discussion. We're not talking about which mecha can beat up what
- mecha, or whether Sakura-san is cuter than Kahm. What we're looking
- at is effectiveness in portrayal of emotion. What we're discussing is
- the the successes and failures of a particular instance of cinematic
- art.
-
- Let's look at Doug Cha's best point:
-
- > Madoka's move to throw her lifelong friend away in pursuit of
- >love is sad enough by itself. It gives me shivers to just type that
- >line out.
-
- This is a really fine story element. It is emotionally powerful, it
- is wrenching in its immediacy. I have the highest regard for
- Takahashi-sensei, but in all the stories i can think through by her, i
- can't think of a single plot element quite this brilliant or powerful.
- This is the kind of thing you find in Pushkin, or maybe DH Lawrence,
- not in inexpensive entertainment. Actually, the closest parallel i
- can think of is Zhivago's decision to leave his wife and kids for Lara.
-
- OK, so what does our brilliant KOR director do with this plot element?
-
- Well, all right, maybe we aren't supposed to be following Madoka's
- feelings here. After all, the real conflict is Kyosuke trying to
- bring to a halt the three or four years of deception he's been
- perpetrating. We do get to see him agonize over having to make a
- clean break.
-
- So what are we given to work with when he finds out she has known of
- his love for Ayukawa all this time, and patiently worked to turn it
- around, and finally thought she had "won" when she kissed him?
-
- Sigh, it's still really quiet here.
-
- I'm no cimematic genius, but i would like to believe i would have
- realized that this was the climactic movment of the whole
- relationship. I might have tried a couple of flashbacks to the times
- where Kyosuke worked hardest to avoid being demonstrative in front of
- Madoka. Heck, maybe Madoka getting them to drink a soda together
- after all the trouble Akane caused in OAV #7. Or maybe, since it is a
- standard device in all the KOR anime, i would have used one of those
- interior monologues where Kyosuke's lucid explanation contrasts so
- harshly with the inarticulate character we are watching in action.
- But i would not have just let the issue drop with no comment.
-
- It's not as if the director and script writer are incompetent or
- incapable. Waiting for the phone call between Kyosuke and Madoka may
- be a bit of a cliche, but it was handled quite well. And standing in
- the store quietly, watching her sit on the bench in the rain, knowing
- that the "human" thing to do would be to go and appologize, but not
- doing it anyway because that's how he decided to handle breaking up.
- There's a moment where i actually DID identify with Kyosuke, partially
- because i was given the time and the visual stimulus to do so.
-
- > As the conclusion to a series spanning 3-4 years of the "spring-
- >time of their youth", it's pretty damned sad.
-
- Yes, its sad. With a bit more attention to showing conflicts, to
- letting us live inside the skulls of the protagonists, this could have
- been one of the best animated films. Instead, it's just a movie. Its
- sad that a simple thing like working with the climax of the relationship,
- orlooking at some of the consequences or motivation of the most
- agonizing choice in the story could have...
-
- >As a movie by itself, "Ano Hi Ni Kaeritai" isn't more than
- >a very slow and very uninteresting movie at best. It is not at all a
- >very memorable movie.
-
- Precisely.
-
- Oh, bah humbug!
-
- R Mark Chilenskas
- rmc@wang.com
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-