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- From: goodwine@fortweyr.EBay.Sun.COM (Ed Goodwin)
- Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
- Subject: Re: Anime Expo GoH #4
- Date: 22 Dec 1992 22:00:31 GMT
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-
- I've been trying to stay out of the fan politics so far, and plan to
- keep trying. When I've been talking to people from either BOD it's
- been to try to get them to put it together into one con. Yes, I'm on
- AA staff, but it isn't because of the politics. The meetings are just
- closer for me and I only have time to work one con. I plan to attend
- both cons as long as the guests are interesting to me and my money
- holds out.
-
- Anyway, I didn't post here just to say that.
-
- Greg Lu writes:
-
- > You know, I really don't understand why people from Anime America keep
- > posting these things attacking Anime Expo. Don't you have anything better
- > to do like trying to run a good convention? You know, if you spent as much
- > time trying to run a good convention as you do posting attacks on Mike
- > Tatsugawa, Oakland, and Anime Expo, you might be able to put together a
- > good convention. The strongest impression I have gotten out of any of
- > those Anime America posts and attacks from Anime America people like yourself
- > and those in Clubzen have been that of hate. If all Anime America is is
- > a convention run on hate, then I will NEVER support it.
-
- What makes you think that George Greene is "from" Anime America? Maybe
- he is on staff somewhere, I don't know (either), but he certainly isn't
- an official representative of AA on the net. From what he says near
- the end of his post, it sounds like he may be a dealer.
-
- Assuming that anyone criticizing one con is representing the other con
- is wrong. Assuming that those using the Clubzen node are all "Anime
- America people" is wrong too.
-
- As to Clubzen, My understanding is that it's a public access node. I
- doubt that subscribers have to sign an oath of allegiance to AA.
-
- Probably 90+ % of anime fandom isn't working on either con, but a lot
- of them still have opinions and are vocal about them. Even the staffs
- are a bunch of individuals, each with their own opinions and their own
- level of willingness to share them. They aren't under the control of
- the con BOD except in the work they do on the con itself. Neither
- staff (or BOD, for that matter) as a whole has been squeaky-clean and
- non-politically professional.
-
- The AA staff is spending their time trying to put a good con together,
- just like I assume the AE staff is. If individuals, whether on either
- staff or not, starts flaming, flame back at THEM if you have to, not
- at the other con. I'd suggest that the best response would be to
- tell them not to waste bandwidth. All the personal insults and
- accusations just make a bad situation worse.
-
- BTW: Though this is a response to Greg's post, the message is meant
- for anyone who's making the same assumptions.
-
- If anyone wants to ignore this, or disagree with me, that's their
- privilege. All flames directed at me will be cheerfully ignored
- unless I decide not to.
-
- Ed
-
-