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- From: mbaron@west.darkside.com (Baron Munchausen)
- Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
- Subject: Re: REGARDING: Transformers come-back! Finally!
- Message-ID: <NPDLwB2w165w@west.darkside.com>
- Date: 30 Dec 92 10:59:22 GMT
- References: <1992Dec24.025237.3480@midway.uchicago.edu>
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- ttak@ellis.uchicago.edu (toki takeuchi) writes:
-
- > It's funny, that I was just telling my friends it was about time
- > Transformers were brought back out, since the new group of
- > kids know Batman and TMNT, and not Transformers.
- >
- > I believe this is the Transformer's THIRD comeback. I have
- > an old Japanese ad from 1976 or so, displaying Megatron,
- > Soundwave (rules!), the original four cassettes, and a few others.
- > Can't remember. Great things never die!
- >
- > The problem that I think EVERYBODY had with the animated series
- > is that HOW THE HELL does Megatron and Soundwave shrink when
- > they are in desguise mode?
- >
- > I was hoping the rerelease would come up with a new storyline
- > would keep them MICRO-ROBOTS, as they used to be in the original
- > 1970's release. The mini-cars were meant to be the PENNY RACERS
- > that were sold in the U.S. in the mid-80's. The regular cars,
- > I suppose, were meant to be just toy cars, not full sized ones,
- > and the same with the decepticons. Oh well...
- >
- > They've got to give the new Soundwave, if they give him
- > the electronic voice, the robot voice.
- >
- > Cool stuff.
- >
- > Kenji Takeuchi
- >
- > P.S.. How about Transformer's the movie! Great stuff! What else
- > has director Nelson Shin made? Some of the movie was KIDDY,
- > but much of it was QUALITY, in a sense.
-
-
- WRONG!!!
-
- The original line of toys that comprised transformers were two lines
- manufactured by Takara. One was called "Diaclone", the other,
- "Microman". Both have origins in the early 1970's (around 1974), and part
- of the very earliest Microman line was released in the US by the now
- defunct Mego Corp. as "Micronauts" in the late 70's following the Star
- Wars boom. Diaclone featured transforming, combining, or other gimmicked
- robots all in "1/50th scale" (more or less often the case) with tiny
- posable figures 1 inch high and magnets on their feet. The early
- eighties brought with it the idea of robots that could transform into
- familiar objects (in Japan) and thus was started the Diaclone "CarRobo"
- line which later expanded to include other things such as Jets and
- Dinosaurs, plus special non-50th scale toys--these toys would later be
- recognized as the original Optimus Prime, Jazz, and so on, the Dinobots,
- the Insecticons, the f-15 variations such as Starscream, and even the
- non-50th scale Constructicons and such in the earliest Transformer
- line--however, these came with figures thacould be place in the vehicles,
- etc. Meanwhile, Microman was a line of "full scale" toys of
- minature-sized warriors and robots, and these eventually included toys
- that transformed into things like m,icrocassetes, tape players, guns, and
- what not: Soundwave, Megatron, Ravage, Laserbeak, Blaster (a working
- radio originally) would come from these.
-
- The "penny racer" cars were indeed supposed to be toy cars that turned
- into minature sized full scale Microman robots. Penny racers were sold in
- Japan by the same company so the resmeblence is not coincidental. They
- were not supposed to represent full scale cars.
-
- Hasbro had become interested in these toys' marketability in the US after
- a large toy convention in Tokyo. They had ties already with Takara becaus
- e Takara had been the distributor of GI Joe in Japan since the Late 60's.
- A deal was quickly made. Toei animation also had ties with Hasbro as a
- division of Hasbro had previously sponsored the release of Starblazers
- for Toei, and was already working on GI Joe with them and Marvel
- Productions. Hence the birth of the original US Transformer shows--toys
- from Japan with japanese animation but American producers and Marketing.
- The imediate success sparked interest from Takara (and Toei) who wasn't
- selling the original lines nearly as well as Hasbro managed, and soon
- abandoned both lines entirely (just before production was to start on
- animated adaptations of the two lines) to market the US hybrid in`stead
- with good results (understatement). Since then, after the cease in
- american production, Takara backed Toei into making the additional
- all-Japanese animated episodes never shown in the US. Unfortunately,
- the quality of the newer toys never matched that of the originals swiped
- from Daiclone and Microman, with a few exceptions.
-
- Why do I know all this? Because I am a collector of the rare Microman
- line of toys instead! ;^)
-
- This is the authentic origin of the Transformers, honest!
-
- --Bryan Wilkinson
- (don't respond to this email adress---write mbaron@chinet.chi.il.us
- instead. sorry, no usenet access for me after this one-shot posting)
-