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- From: kbibb@maui.qualcomm.com (Ken Bibb)
- Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
- Subject: Re: A R G I C allows itself far too much
- Message-ID: <kbibb.725579561@maui>
- Date: 28 Dec 92 21:52:41 GMT
- References: <BzxMJI.LG4@mtholyoke.edu> <root.725487038@maui> <Bzxrs9.Bq1@unix.amherst.edu> <1992Dec28.185055.18248@muddcs.claremont.edu>
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- In <1992Dec28.185055.18248@muddcs.claremont.edu> irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith) writes:
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- >Ken Bibb (kbibb@maui.qualfomm.com) writes:
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- >> But can [Uunet] refuse service because a *human* isn't behind the posts?
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- >Tim Pierce (twpierce@unix.amherst.edu) replies:
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- >> Who can prove that? I don't believe it's true. I'd lay money that
- >> Argic's choice of messages to follow up is motivated by a similar kind
- >> of pattern-scanning mechanism to Kibo's (i.e. find /usr/spool/news
- >> -exec grep -i turk) but I think that someone actually attempts to
- >> write at least some of the prose.
-
- >While the text was certainly written by a human at some point, it appears
- >that posts are being made without any human interaction. That is, the poster
- >is not only pattern-scanning, but is also auto-posting replies based on the
- >results of the scan. I've sent a couple of messages to this group and
- >soc.culture.turkish in an attempt to gather evidence for this hypothesis,
- >and it's pretty convincing. This morning's effort should be fairly
- >conclusive if Argic is in fact just a machine.
-
- Don't forget the postings to articles on Thanksgiving turkey. And I had
- a completely unrelated followup to the aforementioned article.
-
- >> But besides that, why should it? UUNET's job is to funnel news to and
- >> from paying customers. Why should it decline that service from
- >> anatolia just because someone's put an automaton behind it?
-
- >I don't know enough about UUNET or the legality/morality of flooding the net
- >with posts, and Argic is "flooding" a small enough segment that this
- >probably isn't a problem. What if someone set up a daemon to follow up to
- >every post made to every group by quoting the entire post, and adding the
- >single line "Good points, John" or "I disagree, John" (chosen randomly) at
- >the bottom? Given the equipment to do this quickly, this could effectively
- >double the size of Usenet overnight. What if it posted five or ten followups
- >to every message? What if it started following up to its own followups?
- >Imminent death of the net predicted! (grin)
-
- Small enough segment? Take a look in news.lists: he's made the top 10
- for number of posts! (Or was it volume?)
-
- --
- Ken Bibb "he heard the snow falling faintly through the
- kbibb@qualcomm.com universe and faintly falling, like the descent of
- jester@crash.cts.com their last end, upon all the living and the dead."
- --"The Dead", James Joyce
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