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- From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
- Subject: Re: Vaccinations?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan2.192148.20043@spdcc.com>
- Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
- References: <1992Dec28.180843.20969@lclark.edu> <TERRYK.92Dec31085321@toady.encore.com> <1993Jan2.144516.20037@rtf.bt.co.uk>
- Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 19:21:48 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan2.144516.20037@rtf.bt.co.uk> traub@rtf.bt.co.uk (Michael Traub) writes:
- >When I was a child my mother regularly took me to see other children who
- >had measles, mumps and chicken pox so that we could get the disease. In
- >those days no immunization existed. My father (a physician) did not seem
- >at all concerned about complications. My sister and I managed a couple of
- >weeks off school and I have a scar in the middle of my forehead from
- >ignoring mum and scratching my chicken pox. Nowadays however measles and
- >mumps have turned into life threatening diseases and the whole population
- >requires immunization. Really???
-
- It is worth noticing Traub's sleight of hand here--he's conflating a mostly
- innocuous disease of childhood (chicken pox) which has no vaccine with two
- more dangerous diseases (mumps and measles) which do have vaccines.
- Plus, he's arguing from a sample size of his family. It is indeed lucky
- that Traub's father's malpractice (exposing his children to measles)
- didn't result in blindness, deafness or other complications. Measles
- is a very dangerous and contagious disease; it always has been.
-
- >Proper nutrition is far more important than any immunization.
-
- This is nonsense. A properly nourished child is quite capable of
- being infected and dying (or ending up permanently impaired) from
- measles or other childhood diseases. This provide no protection,
- and parents should not be deceived into thinking it does.
-
- >Another point to bear in mind is the level of protection you are
- >providing for your child by vaccinating. I don't know the correct numbers
- >but I would think that your child is ten thousand times as likely to be
- >run over by a car than to be struck down with any of these diseases. The
- >obvious thing to do then is to ban all cars and forget about
- >immunisation. Unfortunately cars and immunisations make money for big
- >companies.
-
- Traub is forgetting that the reason your child is unlikely to be infected
- is a direct result of widespread immunization. Epidemics do not spread in
- populations where there is "herd immunity", as a result of vaccination.
- Once the incidence of vaccination falls below a threshold, the incidence
- of the disease increases, sometimes to the level of an epidemic. This has
- been happening in the past 10 years due to such failures on the part of
- parents who have been deluded into thinking they're acting responsibly in
- their failure to immunize their children.
-
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- Steve Dyer
- dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
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