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- From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
- Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
- Subject: Re: homeopathy
- Date: 29 Dec 1992 15:53:15 GMT
- Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
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- In article <sandrock.725640765@aries> sandrock@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Mark Sandrock) writes:
- >lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
- >
- >>The delutions I've heard of being used in homeopathic medicine don't leave
- >>even a single molecule of the substance!
- >
- >>If there was some substance left then it would make sense to ask about
- >>its effects.
- >
- >Let me see... "I don't understand how it can work, therefore it can't work!"
- >How very "scientific" of a view. It's sure to impress many people nowadays!
- >The same sort of argument is used to "refute" astrology as well.
- >A convenient excuse for not considering the evidence, is all it is.
-
-
- Well, we have a couple of problems with the arguments here.
-
- First of all is the argument that many of the dilutions used in homeopathic
- medicine would statistically have not a single molecule of the substance
- originally diluted (assuming that one believed in the atomic theory). Since
- I have seen good evidence for the atomic theory and for matter not being
- completely divisible, I have to agree with this one. However, it is only
- the two smallest dilutions for which this is the case. So, for the majority
- of homeopathic remedies, this isn't a problem.
-
- Second of all is the point that the theory underlying homeopathic medicine
- is absolute garbage. I'll accept this point also, because it really doesn't
- make a bit of sense when compared with a lot of other things that we know.
-
- Now, it's possible that many of the remedies actually work, even though the
- explanation behind why they work is absolute bunkum. This is something which
- I don't know about. I have been told by people that many of the homeopathic
- medicines actually do them good, though I have not seen any serious
- double-blind studies either way. What's more important is that, since the
- theory is worthless, we can't therefore assume that because one of the
- medicines works (or does not work), that all of the others also work (or
- don't work). Therefore we would have to test each one of the possible
- remedies in order to be sure that they did work, or that they did not do so.
- When you have no valid theory to stand behind, you have to stand behind
- empirical results (which are just as solid, just not as easily generalized).
-
- Now, personally I don't use homeopathic medicine, because I have a great
- problem with using anything whose mode of action is completely unknown.
- Obviously, since I don't buy into the theory behind it, using the substances
- which were developed with the theory is something that I would only do if
- given good empirical proof that they work.
-
- And, I haven't been given good empirical proof either way. So I don't mind
- your using the substances (so long as you don't use the two lowest dilutions
- which I can assure you are worthless), so long as you don't mind my not
- using them. And, as long as you accept the lack of reality behind the
- usual explanations given.
- --scott
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