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- From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers
- Subject: Re: Holiday NeXT Sale!!
- Message-ID: <9212285374@drktowr.chi.il.us>
- Date: 29 Dec 92 13:33:46 GMT
- References: <sgold.725444777@well.sf.ca.us>
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- Sam Goldberger (sgold@well.sf.ca.us) wrote:
- : 1) The very title of the group ("marketplace") specifically
- : connotes commercial activity, since that is what goes on
- : in a marketplace. Following Jim's login, this group
- : ought to be disbanded, or at least renamed. Do we want this?
-
- No, but a "marketplace" can be anything from a flea market to
- the Chicago Board of Trade to a neighborhood garage sale. All of
- which are very different marketplaces.
-
- : 2) The line between commercial and non-commercial is very
- : difficult to discern, especially in a small market. If, as
- : a result of advertising my personal machine, I am able to
- : get more for it than I could from anyone else in Moosejaw,
- : Alaska, is this a commercial post? If I sell it for more
- : than I paid for it, does *this* make it a commercial post?
-
- < and other (some actually pretty good) arguments as to why the
- post should be OK >
-
- I think the bottom line is this:
-
- Are you posting a used product that is inventoried rather than owned
- by you? In other words, do you own the product merely for resale
- rather than use?
-
- Purchase for resale where you keep inventories and such is a business.
- There is a difference between selling say used cars and selling your
- used car. You are brokering when you have an inventory and the like.
-
- I have nothing against online ads from commercial (read as: brokering)
- establishments. However, I don't want the net full of them all over the
- place (it might turn into <God forbid!> Prodigy or some nightmare). I
- found nothing objectionable about your ad at all. The problem is if we
- let net user A do it, then net user B will do it, and so on.
-
- But all is not lost. There are the biz groups where that type of
- posting is allowed and encouraged. I read them occaisonally, and
- it keeps things in an orderly fashion so we who pay for a phone connection
- for news don't pay for someone's advertisement.
-
- And that's the whole point why they're not allowed. The net is a communication
- medium, not an ad medium. There is a difference between the bulletin board
- with the for sale notices at the grocery store and network TV.
-
- The nuances can be argued until the sky falls, but the point is that
- if we let a nice person like Sam post once in a while, some "marketing
- genius" (you know, the same guy who does direct marketing and fills your
- US mailbox with trash ads) will start filling the net and your e-mail with
- it.
-
- However, if someone were to start an ad newsgroup or a price list newsgroup
- for commercial (I'm not going to explicitly define commercial again!)
- interests, I'd would gladly vote in favor of it. I just want to keep
- things seperate. Even if it was in the comp hierarchy:
- "comp.commercial.pricelists" for example. Just so it could be squelched
- by those not willing to carry commercial ads.
-
- My $.02
-
- -Louis
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- Louis J. Giliberto, Jr. ! magus@drktowr.chi.il.us
- -sysadmin drktowr ! lgilibe@orion.it.luc.edu
- Chicago, IL USA !
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