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- From: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy
- Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT (moved from comp.sys.next.misc)
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- Message-ID: <dillon.0t3m@overload.Berkeley.CA.US>
- References: <dillon.0sv3@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> <BzD5I6.GG@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <dillon.0t0a@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> <1992Dec20.051209.9684@cubetech.com>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 19:43:21 PST
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- In article <1992Dec20.051209.9684@cubetech.com> andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern) writes:
- >In article <dillon.0t0a@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
- >> If NeXT can get a handle on its misuse of memory, that is.. they do not
- >> seem to realize the huge amount of bad press they are going to get if
- >> NS486 turns out to be slower then Windows in effective response, and
- >> Windows runs quite well with 8MB of ram.
- >
- >Windoze doesn't use windows with backingstore
- >Windoze doesn't run DPS
- >Windoze doesn't do a lot of things NeXTSTEP does behind the scenes,
- >that's why it uses less memory. NeXT won't get a huge amount of bad
- >press. It's not likely that they will get a huge amount of _any_
- >press.
-
- You are saying this as if these things are *supposed* to take up a lot
- of memory. I see no reason why anything other then the backing store
- need take so much extra memory, certainly NOT display postscript. As
- far as backing store goes, it is definitely overused on the NeXT and
- for much more then simple on-screen window backings.
-
- >NeXTSTEP needs about 24 megs of RAM to run really well. Would you say
- >that NeXTSTEP does three times the stuff in the background? Is it 3
- >times better? Is RAM cheap? yes, yes, yes.
-
- That's nice, so why don't you try to explain this invisible stuff to
- joe user. I'm not arguing with the technical facts, but with the
- assumption that they can be translated into ooos and ahhhs to
- non-technical people. As a developer I rather like the NeXT. As a
- user I wonder why, for example, you can't preview a print command from
- the Previewer (something I often want to do) and why the previewer
- screws up on perfectly valid third party postscript files (e.g. doesn't
- allow you to modify the page layout or zoom). The NeXT is great in
- that it implements postscript, but there are as many special cases with
- the NeXT and it's postscript as there are with every other system I've
- seen. Not so fun, sometimes.
-
- -Matt
-
- >andrew
- >(back from HoHoCon!)
- >--
- >andrew@cubetech.com | "C++'s runtime sucks shit! Virtual functions
- >Andrew Loewenstern | can go straight to hell!" - Ron Pomeroy
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