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- From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
- Subject: Re: End of NeXT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.125536.13692@wam.umd.edu>
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- References: <72148@cup.portal.com> <1992Dec22.045934.5677@cs.yale.edu>
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 12:55:36 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec22.045934.5677@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
- >In article <72148@cup.portal.com> kent_stuart_smith@cup.portal.com writes:
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- >> Interesting to read the NeXT news again, I've been away
- >> from it as I sold my Colorstation last year (Back to the
- >> Mac-sorry). Anyway, a friend of mine who should know (he
- >> used to be at NeXT) said that Jobs delayed the NS '486 intro
- >> not because of technical glitches, but because he fears
- >> the effect on hard- ware sales. The code is already done.
- >> Apparently Grove(from Intel) came to convince Jobs to
- >> start shipping the product, and twice Jobs ended up
- >> cancelling his meetings with him.
- >
- >I don't believe your friend, and you should think
- >carefully about the facts that we in the public know that
- >contradict those claims. We know, for example, that NeXT
- >has made the commitment to release NeXTstep 3.1, a
- >bug-fix release of 3.0, and that NeXT has stated that
- >NeXTstep 486 would not be behind the current NeXT
- >hardware release. This alone delays the release of
- >NeXTstep 486, since the new code hasn't even been
- >released for NeXT hardware.
- >
- >> I don't think this bodes well for NeXT, as I feel there has
- >> been a real decrease in media attention the company has
- >> gotten in the last year.
- >
- >NeXT never has really had a good media blitz, planned or
- >not, but there are still articles in major industry
- >publications up the present. Perhaps if you weren't away
- >from the group so much you would see the pointers ;-)
- >
- >> The real enemy is Microsoft (for Apple too). It is sad, but
- >> true that people have brand loyalty in computers. It
- >> seems that the vast majority of users will buy inferior
- >> products, just because they know the 'name' of IBM, DOS,
- >> or Microsoft. I fear that when Windows NT is introduced,
- >> there will be a big push for that product that will
- >> obliterate NS '486,as well as Mac networking. It won't
- >> matter that Windows NT is a secon d rate product- it will be
- >> a huge success just because Microsoft is behind it Its
- >> much like Ford Motor Co. in the early part of the century.
- >
- >I tend to agree, to the horror of some NeXTstep advocates
- >in this newsgroup. I don't think NeXTstep 486 can hope to
- >compete with Windoze for most users, I think it will be
- >sold with targeted marketing to corporate and
- >higher-end users, with the appropriate higher price.
- >
- >> I fear that NeXT will be be eventually bought by the
- >> Japanese. They may be able to eventually use NS in a
- >> successful fight with Microsoft in the future.
- >
- >Um, you do know that Canon has been a shareholder in NeXT
- >from the first week, don't you? I believe they currently
- >own 18% (not sure, sorry).
- >
- >> I also fear that Jobs won't be able to hold out forever-
- >> remember, he's lost a lot of his fortune in NeXT, as well as
- >> his credibility in the computer world.
- >
- >Say what? That's bullshit, pure and simple. Whether many
- >industry people like SJ or not, they respect him.
- >
- >> It took me back to see the cheap prices of NeXT machines
- >> offered by Spherical (even though they are used).
- >
- >Why? I think it's great that the used market's prices
- >have finally come down to reasonable levels! Now let's
- >get the price of new NeXT hardware down!
- >
- >--
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- I think that if you read articles about the fate of Apple
- even 2 0r 3 three years ago, you'll see parallels to these
- prognostics conc. NeXT. Great software company, overpriced
- hardware. Rotten advertising. Etc. And look where Apple
- is now.
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- NeXT unfortunately doesn't seem to want to be very big.
- God knows what it wants.
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- L.A. Brooks
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