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- From: jmunkki@vipunen.hut.fi (Juri Munkki)
- Subject: Re: "Windoze" slow? Naah...Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmarks
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.163637.5788@nntp.hut.fi>
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- Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
- References: <trimble.724558422@ph-meter.beckman.uiuc.edu> <1992Dec17.124759.28672@wam.umd.edu> <1992Dec19.203557.10356@infonode.ingr.com>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:36:37 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec19.203557.10356@infonode.ingr.com> bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown) writes:
- >Of course, Apple buys 32 bit internal/external '030 cpus from
- >Motorola and then figures out a way to make the memory interface
- >16 bit in the Classic II and LC II, or make the memory interface
- >run at 16MHz instead of the 32Mhz cpu speed in the IIvx and
- >Performa 600.
-
- There's really nothing to figure out. The Motorola processors are
- supposed to be able to support several different data bus widths,
- so all you have to do is set the right signals and you can then use
- just a 16 bit data path.
-
- Things can even be more complicated than just a 16 or 32 bit data
- path: on the PowerBook 160 and 180, the interface to the video RAM
- for the external monitor is 16 bits wide, while all other memory
- accesses are 32 bits wide. The reason for this design appears to
- be that a 16 bit VRAM design takes less space than a 32 bit design.
- The speed of the interface doesn't seem to be badly hurt by this.
- At least it's not slower than a NuBUS video card.
-
- The developer notes on the Wayne's GWorld CD are really interesting.
- It's easy to understand why some design decisions were made and how the
- machines work. My only regret is that there were no notes for the Duo
- machines. The Duos seem to be really interesting designs and I would
- have been very curious to read about them. (Maybe the Duo notes will be
- on the next CD-ROM.)
-
- Note that PC performance is also affected by how many wait states
- there are in the processor to RAM/ROM interface. The developer notes
- give the wait states/access times for most of Apple's machines (not
- the Quadras though... I wonder why).
-
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- Juri Munkki Windsurf: fast sailing
- jmunkki@hut.fi Macintosh: fast software
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