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- From: geek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Myrland Gray)
- Subject: Re: Odesta's Double Helix and re: LISTSERVER!
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.165918.19645@news.acns.nwu.edu>
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- References: <1992Dec21.003958.20064@ultb.isc.rit.edu> <1992Dec30.200953.25124@shearson.com>
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:59:18 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec30.200953.25124@shearson.com> brekshyn@shearson.com writes:
- >It's now Helix Tachnologies "Helix Express". I have had it since 1984 and
- >it is the only database I'd recommend to my small-business clients, especially
- >if they want to maintain it in the future.
-
- Actually, it's Helix Technologies. Future? Helix? *hack* --cough-- (*&^*%*&
- NOT! Helix is bound to die a quick and painful death (IMHO) in the not too
- distant future.
-
- >I've never had data problems and we're
- >talking eight years here! As for technical support I have had no problems,
- >mirabile dictu! Rumour has it that the "management" of Odesta just lost it
- >and ran aground - they ignored Helix in the end to concentrate on that
- >silly "Geo-query" product.
-
- Incorrect. Both GeoQuery and DataDesk which used to be distributed by (but not
- written by) Odesta were dropped quite a bit before it "ran aground." The money
- pit that supposedly caused the downfall was something else (essentially a mac
- front end to a mainframe database).
-
- >True, as in all things, there are problems
- >even now, but Helix has been around longer than any database product
- >for the Mac.
-
- Yeah, and IBM has been around longer than Apple so they must be better, right?!
- What kind of twisted logic is this? They've been around longer because they
- started doing it first. The fact that they are still around does indicate that
- they have been either doing something better than others or something different
- than others. And it seems that from the general reaction to my other postings
- here that it is the latter. I'll grant that Helix does do some pretty cool
- stuff, and sometimes it even does it quickly. I don't really think it's the
- worst thing in the world (as I may seem to suggest some times) - I just think
- that some people are so attracted by the "simplicity" of Helix that they don't
- realize it's just plain "simple-minded." It's not extensible (as is 4D), it's
- not multi-platform (as are most other mac rdb's), and the list goes on...
-
- >Also, its speed (I think MacWorld or MacUser) is faster than
- >other relational db's.
-
- I don't know what year you're reading this from. According to the last set of
- tests done by MacUser, Helix was either in second or third -- out of four. To
- top it all off, when the new management saw this, they were pleased! Granted,
- not being last is something to be slightly proud of, but don't you think that
- since speed is *such* an issue with some people wouldn't you like to place an
- emphasis on this in your development group to make it even faster?! The point
- I think I'm trying to get across is that Helix is not the best database, or
- even the best database it could be. With some *major* work, it could be worlds
- better, but the upper management was (and still is) unwilling to invest in the
- product to allow for some much-needed improvements.
-
- As a final note, if Helix Technologies were a really stable company with a
- solid future why would around 25% of its original staff leave the company in
- the first 9 months of business? This may be acceptable for a large corporation
- that has a lot of redundancy, but not for a company already stretched thin.
-
- Joey Gray
- geek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
-
-
- >All promulgations are my own. No corporate entity has authorization
- >to represent me.
-
-