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- From: Joe Niski <niski@ssd.intel.com>
- Subject: Re: QuickMail vs Microsoft Mail
- Message-ID: <BzqE9G.8no@SSD.intel.com>
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- References: <1992Dec16.003013.3027@NOC.Vitalink.COM>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:27:15 GMT
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- In article <BzD5n2.FH1@eis.calstate.edu> Tom Nakada,
- tnakada@eis.calstate.edu writes:
- >wlopez@vitalink.com (WLopez) writes:
- >>
- >> We are considering purchasing Microsoft Mail for our PC community but
- would
- >> like to be able to exchange mail with our Mac community who are
- already on
- >> QuickMail.
- >>
- >> I would like to know from all of you who may have already gone through
- this
- >> scenario, the pros and cons.
- >>
- >> I have heard that to do the above scenario, it would require a "dual"
- >> gateway. On the Mac side I would need StarNine's MailLink to MHS and
- on the
- >> PC side I would need PC Mail gateway to MHS, running Novell.
- >>
- >> comments........
- >>
- >> comments on document exchange..........?
- >>
- >> or should we just go to Microsoft Mail for the Macs?
- >>
- >> any/all comments are greatly appreciated!
- >>
- >> Thanks in advance!
- >>
- >> WLopez
- >> wlopez@vitalink.com
- >
- >MacWeek just gave Lotus's cc:Mail 2.0 thier "Diamond" Award for (in their
- >opinion) "best cross-platform mail".
- >
- >"cc:Mail is not fast, it needs some client tweaking, and its RAM
- >requirements (in the neighborhood of 1MB) can be a mojor obstacle. But in
- >many cases it has better features, a better interface and a better basic
- >structure than competing E-mail packages. A Mac cc:Mail remote client is
- >in the works, so the major missing components in cc:Mail's line are the
- >numerous gateways that QuickMail enjoys. If your priority is delivering
- >reliable E-mail to everyone's desk, however, cc:Mail 2.0 is the one to
- >look at first."
- >
- >- MacWeek 12.14.92 pg.65 (reviewed 08.03.93)
-
- i've administered both MS Mail and QuickMail on the Mac, and no work in
- an environment where a few Macs need to exchange mail with unix and
- ccMail on the PC.
-
- my ruthless opinions:
- QuickMail is a dog (last version i dealt with was 2.2.7, i beleive),
- ESPECIALLY ITS USER INTERFACE - getting mail addressed to external
- systems is a nightmare no user should be subjected to (see John Norstad's
- article from >1year ago re: QM vs. Eudora). For a large system, you often
- need to patch the Finder to increase the max # of open files. Mail gets
- corrupted often, in my experience. Last time i used it, you had to run
- the administrator program on the mail server itself if you have a gateway
- installed, and the software was incompatible with Timbuktu.
-
- ccMail/Macintosh is a dog. Too much of a resource hog (1200K of ram
- minimum), very slow on both my IIci & an office-mate's Quadra 700, and
- the Notify control panel seems to crash many Macs (though that might be
- due to the fact that our ccMail PO is on a Netware server). DOES NOT WORK
- OVER ARA! Well, it sort-of works, but is too damned slow to be useful.
- Mac file enclosures going through its SMTP gateway get mangled beyond all
- recognition. The remote version was supposed to ship last summer, but i
- ain't seen it yet - the show-floor demos at MacTivity last July crashed
- continualy. A rich administrative-feature-set, but seems to require too
- much human intervention.
-
- MS Mail/Mac is compact, easy to administer, comes with a nifty
- auto-backup Control Panel, & i've only seen a corrupted mail file once.
- Older versions work fine over AppleTalk Remote, the new version allows
- you to disconnect from the network & work off-line. The Mac client for
- PC-based MSMail is an application rather than a DA, requires a network OS
- that allows Mac users to mount the volume holding the PO - haven't used
- it, so don't really know much. Actually, i think PCs can be clients of a
- Mac MSMail server, too.
-
- Right now, we're using StarNine's MSMail<->smtp gateway to get to ccMail
- on the PCs (via ccMail's smtp gateway), and that seems to work, right
- down to file enclosures.
- ---------------------------------------------
- Joe Niski niski@ssd.intel.com
- Macintosh Network Admin.
- Intel Supercomputer Systems Division
- Beaverton, OR USA
-