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- From: freek@phil.ruu.nl (Freek Wiedijk)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
- Subject: Re: Font question. Need very weird accents and diactritics for Skt.
- Message-ID: <freek.726078950@groucho.phil.ruu.nl>
- Date: 3 Jan 93 16:35:50 GMT
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- hue@pro-freedom.cts.com (Scott Hudziak) writes:
- >
- >I've -never- seen the option to put a mark -under- a letter. You can put
- >marks above in most fonts. Keycaps (sys software) or Pop-Char may be of
- >help to you. All I can tell you is that you can get a long slash with the
- >combo 'option-hyphen' and an even longer one with 'Shift-option-slash.' I
- >dunnoif that is long enough for you.
-
- Related question: in which word processors is it possible to combine
- _arbitrary_ letters with _arbitrary_ accents?
-
- More specifically:
-
- In the Macintosh `Standard Roman Character Set' (Inside Mac, Volume VI,
- Appendix E), I find three kinds of characters:
-
- Normal characters
- a $61
- b $62
- c $63
- etc.
-
- Accented characters
- aacute $87
- agrave $88
- acircumflex $89
- adieresis $8A
- aring $8B
- etc.
-
- `Separate' accents
- grave $60
- acute $AB
- dieresis $AC
- circumflex $F6
- tilde $F7
- macron $F8
- breve $F9
- dotaccent $FA
- ring $FB
- cedilla $FC
- hungarumlaut $FD
- ogonek $FE
- caron $FF
-
- This means that accented letters can be made in two different ways:
- for example an _a_ with an acute accent can be made as the single glyph
- _aacute_ (hex $87), as well as the superposition of two glyphs, _a_
- (hex $61) and _acute_ (hex $AB).
-
- However, there are lots of accented letters that can only be made by
- superposition.
-
- For instance, I recently had to enter the following text (it's dutch;
- I hope my convention of putting _<a'>_ for the _aacute_ character is
- clear):
-
- <E`>cht nieuw zijn een paar praktische mogelijkheden:
- de drie stok- en staartlengtes, de geringe materi<e">le va-
- riaties, de zelfspati<e">rende kapitalen, de zelfvormende
- `ligaturen' en de twee sierstukjes in elk font (afb. 34).
-
- The initial _E_ had a grave accent, and I was unable to find an
- _Egrave_ in the standard complement of characters. The only way of
- typing this was by overstriking an _E_ glyph with a _grave_ glyph.
-
- Therefore, I needed a word processor that offers this possibillity.
- And, naturally, the question arose exactly _which_ word processors
- have this feature.
-
- I recently found out that Word can do it (but, as always, in a kludgy
- manner). You can overstrike characters _a_ and _acute_ by typing
- _\O(a,')_ The _\_ should be read as command-option-backslash, the _'_
- as command-option-e.
-
- Command-option-backslash is the escape character for Word's formula
- editor. Surely there should be no need to enter an accented character
- as a very small formula!
-
- So, is there another word processor that can do this, & preferably in a
- more elegant way?
-
- Freek
- --
- Third theory of Phenomenal Dynamics: The difference between
- a symbol and an object is quantitative, not qualitative.
-