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- From: waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg)
- Subject: Re: The maxtor 213 meg drive is NOT 213 megs!
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.115058@cs.utwente.nl>
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- Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
- References: <1992Dec23.223142.3167@newshost.lanl.gov> <4c20VB1w165w@tsoft.net>
- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 10:50:58 GMT
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- In article <4c20VB1w165w@tsoft.net>, bbs.haymore@tsoft.net (Ed Haymore) writes:
- |> sct@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen Tenbrink) writes:
- |>
- |> > I believe that disk manufacters do list the "unformatted" capacity of their
- |> > drives. I'm not exactly sure how they come up with the value but it is
- |> > always a larger value than the formatted value and marketeers being what
- |> > they are will always give you the biggest number they can, even if it is
- |> > bogus.
- |>
- |> It probably is the "unformatted" capacity. Don't forget that (especially
- |> on the floppy disks) there's a fair amount of overhead for each sector of
- |> actual data -- sector headers, gaps to allow time for the drive head to
- |> shift into write mode after reading the sector ID, and (on floppies at
- |> least) bytes to allow the PLL oscillator to sync up as well as long gaps
- |> to allow for differences in drive speed.
- |>
- |> Don't know why there's such a large difference with the larger drives --
- |> I know just enough to be dangerous.
- |>
- |> -- Ed
- |> bbs.haymore@tsoft.net
- |>
- |> --
- |> Ed Haymore (bbs.haymore@tsoft.net)
-
- There's another possibility: Some drives 'lose' bytes when using sector
- translation. For example: My Seagate ST1239a is supposed to have 211 MB when I
- don't use the translation mode. However, to keep the number of cylinders within
- DOS's 1024 limit, I have to use sector translation. As a result of that, I only
- get 202 MB. So 9 MB is waisted!
-
- Most manufacturers do *not* refer to unformatted capacity. For example, the
- Seagate ST2120a is listed as 106 MB drive, but has 120 MB *unformatted* capacity.
- Likewise the ST3144 (listed: 130 MB) is 144 MB unformatted. I suppose the Maxtor
- has an unformatted capacity of approx. 240 Meg's.
-
- BTW: Someone mentioned that 1 MB = 1024 * 1024 bytes. I think this is discutable.
- Should 1 MB be 1024 kB or 1000 kB. After all Mega = 1000 * kilo. I've even seen
- calculations on network throughput that used 1 kB = 1000 Bytes... Should we use
- the 'power of two' convention all the way up to Giga and Tera? The difference
- between a 'ordinary' Tera and a 'power of two' Tera is quite large! (If my
- calculations are correct: 1*10e12 vs. ~1.0995*10e12, almost 100 Gig's difference!)
-
- Greetz,
-
- Jerry
-
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