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- From: ludde@cyklop.nada.kth.se (Erik Lundevall)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
- Subject: Re: New hardware reference guide?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.111514.10677@kth.se>
- Date: 28 Dec 92 11:15:14 GMT
- References: <92329.140836K3023E2@ALIJKU11.BITNET> <1992Dec27.154736.23376@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de> <1992Dec27.192924.2501@ugle.unit.no>
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- In <1992Dec27.192924.2501@ugle.unit.no> mortene@Lise.Unit.NO (Morten Eriksen) writes:
-
- >release a HRM for the AGA chipset. When amateur coders start programming (often
- >inspired by the eurodemos or games) they want something to happen on screen with
- >as little effort as possible. Coding dirty and directly to the hardware means
- >that the coder just have to know the basic principles of machinecode, the RAM-
- >structure on the Amiga, the conversion between numbersystems and a few other
-
- Yes, when people start programming they want to make things happen fast.
- That does not mean they have to start with assembler coding. Languages
- like AMOS provides a starting ground for those kind of programs without
- too much effort.
- I am not too fond of AMOS for various reasons (some of them have been debated
- here not too long ago), but it is a better start for a beginning
- programmer than to dive into assembler directly.
-
-
- >things. Coding through the OS means, in addition to this, that him/her also must
- >know a great deal about the Amiga ROM, opening and closing of libraries,
- >allocation and freeing of memory, him/her needs documentation on the OS for loadsa
- >bucks, _many_ lines of sourcecode has to be written just to display a rasterbar
- >on a black screen e.g.(or how about making a text scroll across the screen), and
- >so on. And this is just to get started! Very tedious and offputting. Lots of
- >talents would be waisted.
-
- Knowing some basic things about hardware registers, assembler etc does not
- make a good programmer. I agree that as a start some easy-to-use things
- are needed, but banging the hardware in assembler is hardly the way to
- go then.
-
-
- >Commodore Amiga has made, and makes, lots of mistakes. Deciding not to release
- >a reference manual for the AGA-chipset would probably be one of their greatest to
-
- On the contrary, I think it was a very good decision. Not hampering
- hardware development by enforcing register level compability is a good move.
-
- >Morten
- --
- -Erik Lundevall ludde@nada.kth.se
- ludde@adder.adsp.sub.org
- Your fault. Core dumped.
-