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- From: gbartoli@netcom.com (Guy Bartoli II)
- Subject: Re: CNET has BACKDOOR???
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.112538.19111@netcom.com>
- Organization: CLink - A Manly Network
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- References: <rkushner.04q0@sycom.mi.org>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 11:25:38 GMT
- Lines: 68
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- Ronald Kushner (rkushner@sycom.mi.org) wrote:
- :
- : >First off, be careful using the word "Backdoor," because that implies that
- : >the programmer purposefully put this method for gaining private passwords
- : >into the system -- which is not the case.
- :
- : I've heard backdoor rumors for the last 7 years...I dunno about a "password"
- : that will enter C-Net, but I've suspected there are little flaws that are
- : overlooked that take systems down.. I know of an 'oversight' in pre-2.0 C-Net
- : that will take the whole system down, some are still there. It's concieveable
- : that you could view passwords with the oversights in the system. I still
- : have a friend who's an EE major at U of M that swears up and down that C-Net
- : has flaws engineered into the system purposly, though I don't see the
- : authors of C-Net doing that since it can compromise the bottom line if
- : discovered.
-
- I agree. But due to the nature of this bug (an the rumour that Ken's board
- has also been hit), it is apparant that this was not purposefully put in
- by Ken himself. Like you said -- this is a business for him. Why would he
- want to compromise his business like that? Besides, if there were backdoors,
- why isn't Ken taking down all the pirated Cnet BBS's?
-
- :
- : >I'm not going to bother describing the method (bug) since I know people
- : >of more malicious attitudes will repeat it on their local CNet systems, but,
- : >any system that has been "attacked" by a hacker MUST delete their BBS.udata
- : >files since the hacker has most-likely attained every user's password and
- : >you will never get rid of the *sshole.
- :
- : Humm....Sounds like a real solution.
-
- It's actually the only solution. If a hacker has gotten ahold of a single
- passcode, then the chances are good that he has everyone's.
-
- :
- : >PLEASE! This is not a backdoor. It's a bug in the system that someone has
- : >uncovered and is taking advantage of. There should be a fix up on the
- : >support board (Future World) immediately! If you haven't had a hack attempt
- : >yet, do not delete your BBS.udata ... if someone has gotten ahold of one
- : >password, he probably has 'em all, so restart your userlog.
- : >
- :
- : Are you saying this flaw is known about by the authors of C-Net where there
- : is an immediate fix ready for immediate release? Is there a fix for people
- : who didn't pay for an upgrade to 2.0 C-Net?
-
- I'm no longer a CNet sysop, myself, but I've got several good friends who
- are. One of which apparantly has spoken directly to Ken about this and
- I wouldn't be surpirsed if there was a fix out at the time of this writing.
-
- As far as a fix for people who didn't pay for an upgrade to 2.0 C-Net, I'm
- not 100% certain as to what you are referring to. In any case, I don't
- speak for Perspective, so you'd have to get in touch with them for that
- answer.
-
- :
- : >p.s. I'm in no way connected to Perspective Software, the hacker, or
- : >Barbara Bush. Thank you.
- :
- : Me neiher...
-
- Cheers!
- --
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