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- From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
- Subject: Re: 1200/4000 pricing
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- Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
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- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:06:47 GMT
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- In article <1i5tknINNd3u@mozz.unh.edu> ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
- >'>VGA is ok, not great. There is no sound standard on the PC. Basically the
- >'>closest thing you'll get is the SB, not even the SB-Pro, SB-16, etc...
- >
- > To tell you the truth, I kind of like it that way. I don't really
- > want an all encompassing sound standard. I'd rather have what we have
- > today, a multitude of sound cards being supported. I don't want to be
- > locked in to only one sound standard.
-
- This is odd. In the game arena only the very large companies can afford to
- support all the various sound cards. What one wants is a minimum standard
- and if someone wants to add support for more then great. This is the case
- with the Mac, for example. In the PC's case most games support your basic
- Adlib, SB (not even pro,16, etc...) and few non-game programs support any
- sound, other than the beep. Sound should be placed on the motherboard. Then
- perhaps there wouldn't be so many irq+interrupt problems with the various
- offerings.
- >
- >'>The things just aren't very
- >'>interesting, and companies that have tried to make them interesting are
- >'>having a hard time of it. The 486 I have is set up to be as interesting as
- >'>a PC could possibly be at this time. Yet few people who visit our home find
- >'>the thing of interest, which is not what I can say about every other system I
- >'>have.
- >
- > I must have a different type of 486 PC then you do. I find it very
- > interesting and fun to use. It runs my astronomy/astrophotography software,
- > imaging software, and of course, games, wonderfully. It provides me with what
- > I consider great graphics and sound. Not everybody who owns a PC is using
- > it for spreadsheets and databases.
-
- While it is true that not everyone who owns a PC is into speadsheets and
- databases (you and me for instance), I find it difficult to imagine your
- comment regarding great graphics and sound. Non-Windows' programs typically
- support VGA which means, for games, either 640x480x16(colours) or 320x200
- with 256 colours. In either case you have a chunky graphics' mode the moment
- there's movement.
-
- > As far as people who visit my home being interested in my computers,
- > well, who cares really. I bought it for my own use. Frankly, I have had
- > 3 computers, an Apple IIe, an Amiga A500, and a 33/486, and few people
- > have found any of them to be interesting.
-
- Well, I agree that it's really the user in the end that decides preferences.
- I simply wanted to point out that PC's were not appealing to most non-computer
- users (and neither are the 3 that you mention above).Companies will simply
- have to do better if they expect any consumer market penetration. At the moment
- the Mac is by far the best choice in that arena, and it's still too expensive.
- Nevertheless it is what consumers like in terms of software. The AGA Amiga's
- and CDTV could be big hits if only they had a decent home software base. I
- hope that comes about with C='s A1200, but it certainly isn't the case now. As
- for the PC, if there are certain types of programs you really like then you
- know they will exist on that platform. Still doesn't make it interesting.
- >
- >'>Had it not been for the PC we would have sound, motion, better TV/computer
- >'>interaction, etc...for a very reasonable price. As it is the 486 has taken
- >'>over the desktop and we have all these rather unpleasant things sitting
- >'>around demoing Wolfenstein3D...It's a nightmare.
- >
- > Now why would you want to demo Wolfenstein 3d when there is so much
- > more out there. How about demoing Strike Commander or X-Wing? Or maybe
- > one of those SVGA wargames like Patriot? Ultima Underworld II?
-
- I don't demo any of these, as I (1) have no use for wargames, flight simulators
- and (2) a computer becomes appealing if someone can just sit down with it and
- get a feeling for it in 10 minutes. If that can't be done, then it's not worth
- buying( from a consumer point of view). This is the case with CDTV of course
- and the Mac, etc...but most certainly not the PC at this time. If OS/2 were
- to become popular then that might be a different story (or even Windows).
-
- Philip McDunnough
- philip@utstat.toronto.edu
-