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- From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
- Subject: Re: CBM mention on 12/11/92 Computer Chronicles
- Date: 30 Dec 1992 23:16:56 GMT
- Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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- In article <1992Dec30.160950.24598@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
- >Only if you let me do the same :-)
-
- Naturally. Fair is fair. :)
-
- >Yes, but is it so difficult for you to accept that there may be people
- >out there for whom virtual memory is a heck of a lot more important than
- >optimal real-time response? Why is it that you believe that real-time
- >response is somehow a more desirable OS feature than virtual memory?
-
- The only people who DON'T want optimal real-time response are those
- running non-interactive applications. For ANY interactife
- application, you WANT the best real-time response you can get.
- Anything less will shaft you.
-
- >The point I was making is that Windows has device independence. This allows
-
- The point _I_ was making is that it MUST. Because there are 1200
- different standards, Windows would become unsuitable as a good
- solution if it didn't JUST BECAUSE EVERYONE AND THEIR GRANDMOTHER
- MAKES INCOMPATIBLE GRAPHICS BOARDS.
-
- >it to support lots of different video cards, and take advantage of video
- >coprocessors if available. It also allows it to support lots of different
- >sound cards, dumb and intelligent printers, etc., all through a single API.
-
- Same thing with the sound cards--since there IS no one standard, it
- becomes that much more important. And that device-independent sound
- is some of the worst stuff. Seriously. Ever see a lemming scream
- seconds after he should have?
-
- >AmigaOS doesn't have this, because originally there was no need for it, as
- >there was only one Amiga hardware standard. But now AmigaOS is in dire need
- >of device independence.
-
- And it's getting it. For audio (to a degree) and video (to a HUGE degree)
-
- >Your article has proved NOTHING about what you say. We seem to agree that
- >AmigaOS and Windows have different, although overlapping, sets of features.
-
- There are very, very few places where they DON'T overlap. VM happens
- to be one of them. But since VM and MP are things that just don't do
- well in a real-time OS...
-
- >Yet you believe that AmigaOS's feature set is somehow "better" overall, while
- >I say that the two serve different markets and cannot be compared.
-
- It is, for anyone who uses interactive applications.
-
- >There are two reasons. First, DOS is necessary because people still want to
- >run DOS commands and applications. Second, Microsoft would much rather sell
- >two products per PC than one.
-
- If people want to run dos applications and cmds, then give them a
- Virtaul DOS like in OS/2 and NT.
-
- I say that the dependence on DOS runs much deeper. In fact, I say the
- dependence runs down to the CORE of windows itself.
-
- Greg
-
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