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- From: jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel)
- Subject: Re: CBM mention on 12/11/92 Computer Chronicles
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- Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 00:27:42 GMT
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- John Bickers (jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz) wrote:
- :
- : > : Windows isn't a worthwhile PC OS,
- :
- : > Why, because *you* don't consider it such? Fortunately, there are millions
- : > of people out there who don't consider you the ultimate authority in OS's.
- :
- : No, because it's built on top of DOS. I haven't seen any of the PC
- : advocates here claim Windows is an OS that one should get if one
- : is into clean multitasking and multiple DOS sessions and so on.
- : Unix and OS/2 2.0 frequently ARE mentioned in this context. The
- : applications that come with it are certainly worthwhile, but that
- : doesn't lend credibility to Windows itself.
- :
-
- Windows isn't worthwhile because it's built on top of DOS?! But it isn't!
- It pretty much *replaces* DOS! But even if it *were* built on top of DOS,
- why does that make it not worthwhile? See, you're still trying to pass off
- your opinions for fact.
-
- :
- : > Both Windows and OS/2 can do this, without extra software, although I'm
- : > not sure about column insertion.
- :
- : If your not sure, then why do you say that they can do it? This
- : sort of "not sure" feel is unusual in your posts. Normally you are
- : as convinced as Marc Barrett.
- :
-
- OK, let's clarify this point a little bit. In Windows and OS/2, you can
- select text in a window using the mouse, copy it into the clipboard, and paste
- it into another window. Column insertion is a function of the editor running
- in the destination window, so if that editor supports it, you have no problem.
-
- :
- : > Before Windows 3.1, my 386 PC was a bit slower in window updates. With 3.1,
- : > however, it became noticeably faster. No, I'm not talking about screens,
- : > just windows.
- :
- : Noticeably faster? So before Windows 3.1, your 386 PC's GUI
- : performance was NOT "as good as or better than" an A3000's?
- :
-
- It was hard to tell, comparing a stock A3000 and my 386 with ET4000 VGA,
- and I was comparing 800x600x8 to the Amiga's 640x400x2. With Windows 3.1,
- it's obvious.
-
- :
- : There are a couple of interesting things here. One is that you are
- : now only considering a subset of the GUI. You said before that
- : switching between screens took ZERO time on your PC, so I'm not
- : sure why you're leaving it out now. Secondly, it shows that
- : Windows at least had room for _software_ improvement to window
- : updates. Which PC advocates here didn't seem to think possible
- : before 3.1. No, back then it was talk of graphics accelerator
- : cards and other wonders :/.
- :
-
- Have you ever heard of software that *didn't* have room for performance
- improvement? If you think you have, you're badly mistaken.
-
- :
- : *** John Bickers, TAP. jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
- :
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- | JERRY J. SHEKHEL | Molecular Simulations Inc. | Time just fades the pages |
- | Drummers do it... | Burlington, MA USA | in my book of memories. |
- | ... In rhythm! | jerry@msi.com | -- Guns N' Roses |
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