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- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
- Path: sparky!uunet!starnine!mikeh
- From: mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas)
- Subject: Re: Comdex/Quicktime released for the PC
- Message-ID: <BzqvGB.3Ht@starnine.com>
- Sender: mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas)
- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 03:38:34 GMT
- References: <1992Dec14.140513.662@pcnntp.apple.com>
- Organization: StarNine Technologies, Inc.
- Lines: 106
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- In article <1992Dec14.140513.662@pcnntp.apple.com> Dale_Adams@gateway.qm.apple.com (Dale Adams) writes:
- >In article <92347.032705MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> Mark 'Mark' Sachs
- ><MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
- >> Yes, I've seen it. It scales the moving images to the size of the window,
- >> and dithers it if there aren't enough bitplanes for all the colors. This
- >> might be impressive if not for the fact that it ends up running so slow
- >> (on a Mac Quadra!!) as to be essentially useless. The Amiga 500 I used to
- >> own animated full-screen up to sixty times faster than QuickTime on a
- >> Quadra.
- >> I reiterate, sophisticated bells and whistles mean little when the
- >> program does not accomplish its main function!
- >
- >No, no, no. QuickTime does much more than what you describe. Please
- >re-read Evan Torrie's remarks:
-
- Oh, no. Another Amiga wanna-be pumping up his mac!
-
- >
- >" Oh no, not again. Please, please, please, read some QuickTime
- >developer's documentation. QuickTime does far more than just bitblt
- >moving images to the screen."
- >
- >To which I'd add: Or resize them. Or dither to a different pixel depth.
- >
- >If you really want a reasonable technical description of everything
- >QuickTime entails, please follow his advice and reference the developers'
- >docs.
-
- Again, what is the point? Your own posting indicates that QT only BEGINS
- to provide entry-level animation (30 fps 320x240 ... w-o-w) on the top
- of the line macintoshes? It is quite pitiful, actually.
-
- In other words, whatever it does, it needs to do less of it, because
- the underlying graphics a5rchitecture is antiquated and slow. The
- QT facility fails to provide adequate animation on even the average mac
- and it is a statement about how little the Mac can accomplish in real-time
- work.
-
- >
- >Also, I believe your numbers are a bit off. Using QT 1.5 I run 320 x 240
- >animations at 30 fps on my Quadra 950 on a 16 bit/pixel screen.
-
- That may be something to be proud of on a mac using QT, but it
- is so far behind Amiga animation capabilities it is laughable.
-
- >I doubt
- >your A500 runs 60 times faster than that.
-
- Just the fact that an 8 MHz 68000-based machine can do better
- at all that your $10,000 Quadra says it all. And they call the
- Mac a GRAPHICALLY-ORIENTED MACHINE?
-
- >Running anims on your A500
- >isn't doing what QT is doing.
-
- Very true. The Amiga 600 isn't skipping frames, providing pitiful
- jerky animation.
-
- >If I just want a simple animation player,
- >I'll use something like MacroMind Director/Accelerator. Using this
- >off-the-shelf software with no special tricks, my Q950 will animate at
- >over 90 fps on a 640 x 480 8 bit/pixel display.
-
- But it won't load up the next animation frames while SMOOTHLY displaying
- the next. It won't run OTHER GENERIC MAC SOFTWARE in the background
- while animating.
-
- And why don't we stop talking about Quadras? It's always
- mind-boggling the number of times PC & MAC fanatics want to compare
- the animation capabilies of their QUADRAS and 486's to an Amiga 600!
- Notice they NEVER allow a 4000 (the flagship amiga) to enter the fray!
-
- Hey one of you 4000 owners... how fast can you animate 640x480x8?
-
- >I do believe that you've seen QT running dog-slow on a Quadra.
-
- That's big of you. Anyone out there who HASN'T?
-
- >Heck, I
- >can make any machine run slow if is set things up right (wrong?).
-
- I can make a mac run slow even easier than that... just turn it on!
-
- >I've
- >seen many Mac dealers demoing Quadras with the 040 cache off and running
- >all software from a CD-ROM. Talk about crippling the machine!
-
- That brings up the fact how computer-ignorant the average mac owner is.
- Did you know that for the system 7 tune-up, apple changed their plan
- and provided a full installer program for it, even though it just needs
- to be dragged into the system folder. Seems that they discovered that
- 60% of mac owners DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT! (reported in MacWeek)
-
-
- >It's easy
- >to make things run slow.
-
- Only on a Mac. Some games on my Amiga 3000, I can't get to slow down enough!
- RUn tons of processes, disable caches, run in chip mem, some of 'em are
- STILL too fast!
-
- >The trick is to do things right.
-
- Like recognizing Macs for the bloated, slow, antiquated toys they are.
- Then spend your money on a real engine, an Amiga.
-
-