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- Path: sparky!uunet!microsoft!wingnut!philipla
- From: philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara)
- Subject: Re: FCC will proclaim Microsoft is run by Communists! :)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan04.042526.11051@microsoft.com>
- Date: 04 Jan 93 04:25:26 GMT
- Organization: Microsoft Corporation
- References: <8239@lib.tmc.edu> <1992Dec31.051750.5270@microsoft.com> <8289@lib.tmc.edu>
- Lines: 103
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- In article <8289@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec31.051750.5270@microsoft.com> philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:
- >> Jay, have you seen _any_ real numbers on this? All I've
- >>seen on this newsgroup, and I've been following the thread from
- >>the beginning, is supposition and made up figures.
- >
- >OK...so either contribute some real numbers, or else admit that we're working
- >with the best information we have.
-
- That "best information" is a fantasy.
-
-
- >[example numbers deleted]
- >The only catch is that I'm compelled to buy DOS and Windows, whether I want it
- >or not, whether I'm already licensed for it or not, and whether I intend to
- >run it or not.
-
- This keeps getting bandied about. No matter how many times you
- say it, Jay, you aren't being "compelled" to buy DOS or Windows unless
- there is _no_ OEM who sells a system without them. This is clearly
- not that case, and so I conclude that you are either intentionally
- distorting the facts or are woefully ignorant of them.
-
-
- >> If any application is using undocumented calls, it runs the
- >>risk of not working in future releases of the OS. No one has shown
- >>a shred of evidence that Microsoft apps are somehow immune to this
- >>effect.
- >
- >Take off your MS-colored glasses for a moment.
-
- Sigh. You're a fine one to accuse someone else of bias.
-
-
- >If MS uses undocumented calls, then the app developers get advance warning
- >that the undocumented call they're using is going away, and they can hit the
- >street the minute that the new version is out with an update that will work
- >with the new version.
-
- Evidence, please. Put up or shut up, Jay.
-
-
- >> There also isn't any evidence that any Microsoft application uses
- >>an undocumented call to gain any significant performance advantage.
- >
- >If not, then why is it done?
-
- Beats me - why not ask all the other ISVs that are using the
- same calls?
-
-
- >> Why would an OS/2 developer upgrade to MSC 7? The product
- >>doesn't support OS/2 - such an upgrade would be silly.
- >
- >Nevertheless, there have been people in this very forum that have said they
- >did exactly that. Where are they? Out in the cold, out the several hundred
- >bucks they spent on it.
-
- Really? Is anyone that ignorant willing to publically admit it?
- Microsoft never billed C7 as suitable for OS/2 development - why
- would _anyone_ buy it for that purpose?
-
-
- > Once again, MS abandons its politically incorrect
- >users.
-
- Microsoft doesn't support the Amiga either. I don't hear
- you screaming about that.
-
-
- >> Show me foundation for them, then.
- >
- >The foundation is locked away in the twisty little mind of Bill Gates.
-
- No, Jay - the foundation is locked away in your own mind.
- It's a figment of your imagination - for some reason, you think it
- might be a good idea to hate Microsoft. So you invent pseudo-facts
- and "logical" justifications for your hatred. This is pretty
- common Usenet practice - I recognize it when I see it.
-
-
- >> Based on rumor. Foundationless. The FTC hasn't done _anything_,
- >>Jay. They haven't gone right to court. So where's your foundation
- >>here?
- >
- >Yet.
-
- In other words, you're admitting that your accusations are
- without foundation.
-
-
- >Haven't you been reading the articles reposted here? I seriously doubt that
- >major magazines and newspapers would print that kind of thing unless they
- >believed it to be true.
-
- Heh. A newspaper in Seattle recently reported the "Man siphons
- gas from the septic tank" urban legend as fact. The media is fallible.
- The media is biased. You can't believe everything you read, even
- when it makes you happy to believe it.
-
- -Phil
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- philipla@microsoft.com Redmond, WA 98052-6399
- Note: Microsoft doesn't even _know_ that these are my opinions. So there.
-