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- From: mbk@gibbs.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
- Subject: Microsoft's perfect strategy.
- Date: 2 Jan 1993 00:29:31 GMT
- Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
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- cantor@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (scott eric cantor) writes:
- : And if what I read about MS's plans in InfoWorld is
- : true, I'm even more convinced because a 16 bit/32 bit hybrid DOS is being
- : written that will run a fully 32-bit version of Windows that basically gives
- : you NT without the networking or security. But DOS will still lie underneath
- : it. It's not going anywhere.
-
- This is clearly Microsoft's ideal stragegy.
-
- I'll pretend to be Bill Gates for a while.
-
- "Ok the long term goal is to ensure that Win NT kills everything else.
- How do I do that? Backwards compatibility.
-
- Unfortunately, DOS is so simple and stupid that lots of people have been
- able to figure out how to reimplement it. Like OS/2 and all the UNIX
- vendors. They even have it on a Mac.
-
- Now, Windows is alot more complicated and a lot harder to get right. This
- is the key. We've already knocked off DR-DOS. I thought that OS/2 would
- have fallen, but those guys have managed to get Windows 3.1 working on
- it, so we have to try harder. Already lots of people are writing programs
- for Win3.1, which is great.
-
- What I need is for WinNT to offer something that nobody else can do.
- Which is windows compatibility, after all, we have th source code. So,
- the solution is Windows 4.0. We'll add "some" NT features to it that
- are essential for some new applications (memo: tell Apps group to make heavy
- use of them) and make sure that it cannot be emulated. Let's delay
- real NT a while so that we can get this kludge out and get applications
- written for it. Really, there's no technical reason to keep on extending
- stupid Windows, but I cared about that I wouldn't be a billionaire now.
- I wonder if we can buy an algorithm patent that we'll stick into Windows 4.0---
- just to make sure.
-
- :
- : >Competition in the OS market is much more intense
- : >now than it was 5 years ago, and I personally expect that trend to
- : >continue. Any one of SunOS-NextStep-OS/2-Nt-Solaris-Pink-etc could
- : >be the next DOS, though it is more likely that they will just each
- : >end up with some share of the high-end market.
-
- If I can hold out pushing windows as long as possible we'll certainly
- win. I was worried about OS/2 for a while, but thank god for Wall street!
- What perfect timing. IBM stock hits record lows, and we hit record highs.
- Who'll buy IBM stuff now, anyway.
-
- Too bad about NeXTstep. They have some really good shit. (memo
- to marketing: make up some stuff about WNT's "micro-kernel" and
- "object-orientation".).
-
- :
- : I agree, but UNIX will still no more than a niche player on the
- : desktop, and OS/2 is stuck in that same limbo unless and until apps start
- : appearing.
-
- Yeah. I coudn't have said it better myself. In fact, I think I have
- said it myself! Can't believe everybody believes me so easily. All the
- PC rags I've locked up and even now BYTE is eating out of my hand.
- There aren't any Apps for WNT at all, it hasn't even shipped, and UNIX
- is superior to WNT, especially NeXTstep, but if everybody's
- so gullible to believe me that's their tough shit, I guess! You know, I like
- being a billionaire."
-
- :
- : >* Happy ex-developer of OS/2 v2
- : >* -----
- : >* "Not even close to being a Microsoft spokesbeing"
- : >* Robert Reichel (robertre@microsoft.com)
- :
- :
- :
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- : [ Scott Cantor UNIX is a small, fast, efficient ]
- : [ Ohio State University operating system upon which every ]
- : [ Columbus, Ohio graduate student in the universe has ]
- : [ played pin the tail on the donkey. ]
- : [ cantor@cis.ohio-state.edu ---- a UNIX guru ]
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