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- From: mbk@gibbs.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
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- Subject: Re: FCC will proclaim Microsoft is run by Communists! :)
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- Date: 31 Dec 92 20:27:34 GMT
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- bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor) writes:
- : From a programmer's point of view there is no real separation between
- : applications & system software. Almost every application involve
- : some interaction with the system or system calls. This separation
- : exists only in the mind of the FTC.
-
- Imagine flying this past the marketing director: "What's the big deal
- about needing kernel patches for the application? From a programmer's
- point of view there is no real separation between applications and
- system software?"
-
- There is only ONE operating system, created by ONE company, which can
- conceivably run MANY different applications. (But that may be changing.)
-
- It's to Microsoft's advantage to put more and more "applications" features
- in their operating systems, thereby precluding others from future competition
- in those areas. (Unix vendors didn't do that since they have this
- "comittement" to the codex of Unix code from either Berkeley or AT&T)
-
- Consider all the "multimedia extensions" and 'database features'.
-
- Microsoft Application developers can ASK for inside information about
- OS calls that others have to figure out from reverse engineering, which
- of course, may change in future versions.
-
- They can see the source code and look how the OS calls really work, in
- contrast to believing the documentation. I can't believe anybody with
- any real experience would consider this a minor triviality, especially
- considering the increasing complexity of new operating systems. (Apple
- could conceivably have done the same thing, but they spun their applications
- group off)
-
- But that's not the real danger. MS Applications can find about plans and
- request specific features that they need in the future that will best aid
- their business plans. Everybody else has to wait and see what MS decides to
- dole out.
-
- Don't you see from a business point of view this makes an ENORMOUS difference?
- Especially when being "big and first" often establishes the "accepted standard"
- around which everyone else must conform for the sake of compatbilitity?
-
- : Now, when entrepreneurs start
- : the game, they usually have some long-term goals. They dont know
- : ahead of time that some government committee is going to enter into
- : the picture later on and arbitrarily change the rules. If that
- : occurs too much in new areas they will simply not start to play
- : the game.
-
- Replace government committee with MS and that's a good example of what's
- starting to happen with application developers. They know that there is
- NO place for the large profit-making mainstream applications outside
- Microsoft.
-
- Consider the PenPoint computer. Clearly enormously superior to anything
- mainstream (objectoriented OS, etc.) but it will be killed by
- Pen Windows. (does it exist even?)
-
- :
- : >Jeff Sicherman
- : >up the net without a .sig
- :
- : Dov
-
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