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- Path: sparky!uunet!microsoft!wingnut!philco
- From: philco@microsoft.com (Phillip Cooper)
- Subject: Re: FCC will proclaim Microsoft is run by Communists! : )
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.165527.20830@microsoft.com>
- Date: 31 Dec 92 16:55:27 GMT
- Organization: Microsoft Corporation
- References: <wiegand.725577960@lido16> <1992Dec29.172229.3466@microsoft.com> <8236@lib.tmc.edu>
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- In article <8236@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec29.172229.3466@microsoft.com> philco@microsoft.com (Phillip Cooper) writes:
- >>All right, this mis-information being spread is getting a little out of
- >>hand. It is true that *one* type of licensing contract offered to system
- >>vendors charges royalties per computer. It is also true that another
- >>type of licensing contract charges royalties per copy of OS sold. There
- >>are many variations of each, and they cover just about every conceivable
- >>type of licensing you can imagine. It is *completely* up to the vendor
- >>to choose which contract to use. If they choose to go with the one charging
- >>royalties for each machine sold it is because they get larger volume
- >>discounts and the vast, vast majority of customers want MSDOS anyway.
- >
- >Not necessarily. For example, say that MS charges $8 per machine for the
- >every-machine-gets-one contract, and $20 per license for the completely
- >unbundled version. In each case, the vendor gets exactly the same thing: the
- >right to preinstall DOS and Windows on his machines and provide a book that he
- >gets to have printed of OS documentation.
- >
-
- First of all, neither you nor I know they difference in cost between the two
- licensing agreements. I would think that the spread is much less than you
- are assuming here. Second, they do not get exactly the same thing. There is
- an important distiction between the two which I will not bore you with again.
-
- >This would be a prime case of MS forcing vendors to sell DOS and Windows with
- >each machine, whether or not the customer wants or needs it. (I can hear the
- >cries now: "But they're not holding a gun to their head!"...to which I answer
- >that force can be economic as well as physical.)
- >
-
- And again, I say who is forcing the vendors to sell DOS and Windows with
- each machine?? Certainly it is not Microsoft. We explicitly offer licensing
- agreements that allow them to only pay royalties on copies of the OS which
- are actually installed. If anyone is forcing them, it is the 99% of their
- customers who *demand* MS-DOS and Windows.
-
- >All that's now required is for MS to make these offers to each new computer
- >vendor. Guess what: instant monopoly!
- >
-
- >(A company can have an effective monopoly with less than 100% of a market.)
- >
- >>If you don't like it, complain to the hardware vendor that chose this
- >>licensing arrangement, rather than one which charges only for each copy
- >>of the OS sold. They are the ones, after all, that made the choice.
- >
- >...under severe economic pressure from MS. Practically speaking, if I want a
- >new machine, I have to buy it with DOS and Windows preinstalled. (Fortunately,
- >though, this may be changing; at least Dell is standing up to MS' pressure,
- >and I can always go get a PS/Valuepoint...)
- >--
-
- What is this severe economic pressure we are applying? Honestly, I just
- don't understand your point of view. Just as a data-point, I purchased
- a new 486-50 two months ago that was not bundled with Windows. So, I think
- your statement above is more than a bit exagerated. It is quite possible
- to purchase a computer with DOS and Windows preinstalled.
-
- Phil Cooper
-