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- Path: sparky!uunet!grebyn!daily!mfraioli
- From: mfraioli@grebyn.com (Marc Fraioli)
- Subject: Re: OS/2 bigot meets NT....
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.010153.5064@grebyn.com>
- Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
- References: <1992Dec28.031753.13773@actrix.gen.nz> <1992Dec29.220017.16223@grebyn.com> <1992Dec30.015357.11809@ryn.mro4.dec.com>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:01:53 GMT
- Lines: 61
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- In article <1992Dec30.015357.11809@ryn.mro4.dec.com> Peter.Mayne@cao.mts.dec.com writes:
- >
- >In article <1992Dec29.220017.16223@grebyn.com>, mfraioli@grebyn.com (Marc Fraioli) writes:
- >>When I think about it, I think that Microsoft may have tried to
- >>tackle too much at once with NT. Just think about all the
- >>subsystems/APIs that they are trying to include: DOS, 16-bit Windows,
- >>Win32, Win32s, 16-bit OS/2, and POSIX.
- >
- >Win32s is a strict subset of Win32 that runs under Windows 3.x, not
- >an NT subsystem.
- >
- Fine, so it's five subsystems instead of six. Still a bit much,
- wouldn't you say?
-
- >>Networking? Both TCP/IP and
- >>SPX/IPX, right? File systems? FAT, HPFS, and NTFS (keeping in mind
- >>that NTFS has all the security data associated with files which the
- >>other two don't-- that's got to be a pain in the rear, trying to enforce
- >>file system security when there may be filesystems that don't support
- >>the notion present).
- >
- >File system security isn't enforced on FAT and HPFS.
- >
- So if you're interested in security, they're essentially not options,
- huh? That's interesting. I suppose it doesn't matter that much, since
- I assume that DOS programs &c can run from an NTFS partition, but that
- does bring up the question-- why bother to support them at all? I can
- see FAT for floppy disks, but other than that, what's the point? Does
- NT have a dual boot feature like OS/2?
-
- >>Then on top of all that add the security they're
- >>building in, new multi-threaded kernel, and the fact that this is the
- >>first from-scratch OS that MS has written on its own. Not to mention
- >>the fact that they are concurrently trying to port it to MIPS and Alpha.
- >
- >The reference platform for NT is MIPS, so they're "porting" it to the Intel
- >platform, if "porting" is the right term to use in a concurrent development
- >situation. Also, Digital are playing a significant part in the Alpha port.
- >
- >>--
- That seems kind of strange, since Intel will obviously be far and away
- the largest market for NT for quite some time. I've never met or even
- read of anyone, user or developer, who had any plans of even considering
- running NT on anything but an Intel machine. So why would they do it
- this way? (Note that I'm not saying that I don't believe you, I'm just
- questioning MS's sense in following this path)
-
- >>Marc Fraioli
- >>mfraioli@grebyn.com (So I'm a minimalist...)
- >
- >PJDM
- >--
- >Peter Mayne | My statements, not Digital's.
- >Digital Equipment Corporation |
- >Canberra, ACT, Australia | "AXP!": Bill the Cat
- >
-
-
- --
- Marc Fraioli
- mfraioli@grebyn.com (So I'm a minimalist...)
-