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- From: sjb5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STACY JOHN BEHRENS)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
- Subject: Re: Is Microsoft the next Standard Oil?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.030133.75057@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
- Date: 23 Dec 92 03:01:33 GMT
- Organization: Lehigh University
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- In article <1992Dec22.113330.22921@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, helz@ecn.purdue.edu (R
- andall A Helzerman) writes:
- >In article <Bzn0EI.D2w@csulb.edu>, sichermn@csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman) writes:
- >
- >|> And supposedly Standard Oil (back in the late 1800's) found their oil
- >|> fair and square. However, the marketing practices they followed and the
- >|> restrictive covenants they imposed on their distributors and sellers
- >|> were anti-competitive and the general vertical control they exercised
- >|> over the whole system was deemed unhealthy for the consuming public.
- >
- >OK, I really didn't want to address the Standard Oil strawman, but I'll
- >go into it anyways. Here are some facts which your (probably goverment
- >owned and operated) school didn't tell you about Standard Oil.
- >Source: "Antitrust & Monopoly: Anatomy of a Policy Failure" by Dominic
- >Armentano:
- >
- >Standard Oil never was a monopoly. It reached its biggest market share in
- >1890 with 88% of the petroleum product market. Not even the great John D.
- >Rockafeller himself could turn Standard Oil into a monopoly.
-
- A monopoly doesn't need to be 100% in real life. True that would be a
- technical definition, but the effect is that a company with such overwhelming
- market share gets to call the shots.
-
- >
- >It wasn't until 1907 that suit was brought against it for its failure to
- >comply with the Sherman antitrust act.
- >
- >And it wasn't until 1911, 21 years later, that it was finally convicted
- >of being a monopoly.
-
- 1911 isn't 21 years after 1907. I assume this is a typo.
- >
- >In the meantime its market share had fallen from 88% in 1890 to only
- >66% in 1911. Standard Oil was never a monopoly, and in fact in the 21 years
- >between 1890 and 1911 it had a steadily decreasing market share. Why?
- >Not because of antitrust laws--there were none. Because of competition
- >from small companies like "Gulf" and "Texico".
-
- Again, 100% is not required to achieve what amounts to a monopoly in real life.
-
- >
- >The antitrust laws were passed under the guise of protecting consumers from
- >big evil rapacious business, but the true motivation was jealously on the
- >part of the companies who couldn't compete.
-
- And they should be squashed out of existance. I don't see how the government
- limiting the growth of a big company is worse moraly or economically than the
- big company squashing a little company. Standard Oil *did* engange in
- practices that not only tended to promote their becomming a monopoly, but
- practices which hurt competition and were in no way, shape or form moral.
-
- >
- >We need fear Microsoft becomming a monopoly no more than we needed to
- >fear Standard Oil. History clearly shows that the free market was
- >working to reduce Standard Oil's market share. And if we don't use the
- >FTC as a club to beat Microsoft into the ground, history will again show
- >that the free market in computer software will work fine too.
- >
-
- You seem to neglect the point that Standard Oil had to straiten out their act
- in order to keep the government off their back as much. A change in tactics,
- can often reduce market share and this was apperently no exception. We always
- need to worry about one company potentially hurting our economy. In some
- cases a monopoly isn't the worst thing to have. In other cases it is.
- Software is one of the cases where something even approaching a monopoly is
- usually a bad thing. Software isn't like a car or salt or other commodities.
- If you don't like a car, you aren't tied to a particular type. If you wan't
- software though, you are usually limited to some degree, by what you already
- have. A monpoly would be the worst thing that could even happen to the
- computer industry and we most certainly need to worry about it happening.
-
- --
- Stacy John Behrens
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