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- From: roberts@cognos.com (Robert Stanley)
- Subject: Re: Is Microsoft the next Standard Oil?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.231152.12926@cognos.com>
- Summary: Histroy repeats itself
- Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA
- References: <22DEC199210144769@moose.cccs.umn.edu>
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:11:52 GMT
- Lines: 51
-
- In article <22DEC199210144769@moose.cccs.umn.edu>
- rwh@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Richard Hoffbeck) writes:
- >
- >Until recently Apple GAVE AWAY their OS -- how hard is it to compete against
- >that! That's right ... Apple also produces applications software and there have
- >been grumblings from other developers that Apple isn't always up front with
- >them. Does anyone have the number for the FTC enforcement group? :-))
-
- Until the late '60s every computer manufacturer gave away their system
- software. IBM (remember them) started the trend for selling the system
- software in a move that was known as unbundling. Every other manufacturer
- of the day was quick to follow suit.
-
- Apple does NOT produce applications software. Apple very carefully spun
- all their applications software off into a separate entity named Claris,
- where it remains to this day. Claris is an independent company, sets its
- own agenda (to the point of serious disgruntlement for many Mac users),
- and even has MS Windows versions of some of its products!
-
- More importantly, while Apple holds a monopoly on system software for the
- Mac, the Mac does not represent a monopoly in the healthily competitive
- desktop marketplace. Microsoft may well be able to use exactly that
- argument in their own defence. It will depend if their restrictive
- practices in the IBM PC portion of the desktop marketplace can be
- construed as unfair practice in the desktop marketplace as a whole.
-
- As someone has already pointed out, all this discussion is pointless.
- Microsoft are a large and powerful company, and will undoubtedly field
- an army of lawyers to protect their profitability. If they decide that
- it is in their best interests to alter their business practices they
- will do so, and if not they won't. Sit back and enjoy the ride, because
- all the net discussion in the world is not going to alter the situation.
-
- If clone manufacturers are objecting to the terms under which Microsoft
- will or will not let them ship systems with MS system software on their
- boxes, they can make a big marketing issue about selling cheaper naked
- hardware, with the buyers free to purchase just the software they want.
- If it catches on, the free market will have spoken, and Microsoft will
- find its business changing under it. If it doesn't catch on, the free
- market will have spoken, and endorsed Microsoft's position.
-
- All you as an individual can do, should you be anti Microsoft, is to
- refuse to buy a system that comes with MS software pre-loaded, and
- make sure that the dealers are clear why you are refusing their product.
- And if you are pro Microsoft, do the opposite.
-
- Robert_S
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