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- From: fles0092@rz.uni-hildesheim.de (Frank Leskova)
- Subject: Re: FCC will proclaim Microsoft is run by Communist
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.080541.20108@rz.uni-hildesheim.de>
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- Organization: Universitaet Hildesheim, RZ
- References: <1992Dec21.201419.3568@tc.cornell.edu>
- Distribution: world
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 08:05:41 GMT
- Lines: 62
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- In article 3568@tc.cornell.edu, bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor) writes:
- >In article <rhoward.724964340@matd> rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard) writes:
- >>bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor) writes:
- >
- >>The problem is that I cannot call my local clone vendor and
- >>get a PC with DR-DOS installed. Why? Because MS has used
- >>their enormous market presence to, in effect, force that
- >>PC maker to install MS-DOS on *all* PCs they make. Even
- >>if they don't send out my PC with MS-DOS on it, MS gets the
- >>licensing fee anyway. So if I *really* want DR-DOS, it costs
- >>me money (to go and purchase it), and time (because I have to
- >>install it over MS-DOS). DR-DOS had better be *damn* better for
- >>most people to bother with that....
- >
- >That is because people dont bother with a new operating system
- >until they clearly see the advantage of purchasing it. So it
- >is PEOPLE, not MS who "do" the monopoly.
-
- People don't create monopolies - companies do.
- If M$ didn't have those contracts with computer vendors, who
- knows how much of M$-DOS 5.0 or even Window$ would be sold?
- As a computer vendor you have to deal with quite a lot of
- competition. So you look around to find out, which software
- is the cheapest to install on your systems.
- If companies wanted to install DR-DOS and WIN, they'd have
- to buy MS-DO$ for every system and try to either sell it
- separately - or trash it.
- In any case: a rise in purchase price for the vendor, and
- probably a rise in selling-prices for the customers.
- Now the big question: does _that_ seem like something,
- you'd like???
-
- >Of course there is an advantage to the company who does things
- >first. But they have to do it. MS did, others did not. Is not
- >it fair to compensate a company who did things before everybody
- >else ? I think it is. Otherwise we would have stagnation
-
- As far as I remember (correct me, if I'm wrong), M$ was not the first to
- create/develop M$-DOS, they were the first to buy the licenses from a
- quite small company. It used to be called (same as above) Seattle-DOS.
- This was the base for creating M$-DOS 1.0.
- But: who talks about Seattle-DOS today?
-
- About compensation: I also think that it is fair for a company to have
- a certain success with a product they sold before others developed
- concurrents. But exactly how long did it take, until M$-DOS got real
- competition... CP/M? DR Concurrent-DOS? Other OSes, created by smaller
- companies? OS/2 1.x? DR-DOS!
-
- In other words: M$ had a quite good position in OS sales.
-
- It does look a bit different if you consider GUIs. GEM was good, but
- DRI slept while M$ kept on developing Window$. Desqview is, as far
- as I see it, competition as multitasking enviroment, but as GUI?
-
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